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Whatever one you feel more comfortable with will work best, but remember don't count, on the "count" :)

Start with 20 nice even X strokes on the 4k then see how that does, add in 5 at a time...

Jason the circles in conjunction with that angled stroke you have already learned work so good together, that if it doesn't work out for you after all this...
I'll hone it for you, and see what is...

Actually it sounds like yer doing everything right...

First, just stop doing laps it aint working, so stop

Take Jimmy's advice and lets get you doing Lynn's 40 circles rountine because the...

I really hope this is not your first attempt at honing in fact I hope this isn't your 10th...

Are we also to assume that this is a heavy blade as in 1/2 hollow or more...???

Actually what...