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    Default New Owner of the Edwin Jagger De89

    SO I did some research and based on reviews I decided to convert from the Gillette to the Edwin Jagger De89bl. I am using shaving cream from the art of shaving and a silver tip brush. I took my time read posts and watched several video so here i go...

    First shave went soso, bad irritation and blood spots on my neck. Just shaved top to bottom 3 shaves. OK I said maybe cause it is my first shave, 3 days later i did my head and face and again irritation and blood spots.. Head was not that bad but face was very irritated. I do use art of shaving moisturizer after shaving. I have noticed that my skin gets very irritated if i shave side to side or against the grain.

    I am using stock Derby Extra blades. Is this the cause of the bleeding and irritation? I am not putting any pressure on the razor, and i am stretching my skin by the jaw line...

    I like to shave with the Edwin but it is killing my face. any suggestions?

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    Try other blades as well, like a sample pack. For example, for me Kai blades work best.
    Also you could experiment with some shaving oil before lathering your face.
    Use very little pressure with your razor and if you need to touch up a rough spot, use lather or oil, don't do it without it.
    If you still get bad results after 10-20 shaves, try a different razor. For me, Merkur 37c slant was more efficient than the de89, so I needed less passes, so less irritation.

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    i do use oils before lather and still irritation. I used a older gillette my father had also a DE and i had similar results with the same blade. My father has some new sword blades i will try and see if i get less irritation. I would hate it if it is the angle of the razor as i don't wanna waiste more money on another razor yet.

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    Not sure how long you've been at this, but going by the number of post you have, I'd say give it some time, try different blades. The Edwin Jagger is probably one of the most forgiving I've owned. One other thing, I've never had great luck with shave oils or preshave oil, and lather. The oil has always killed the lather and created more drag between the razor and my face. Try Noxzema instead as a pre & post shave take an almond size scoop and rub it in to the skin, until it disappears. Then wet your skin and apply lather. Could the shave cream/soap be the problem? Building a proper lather?

    Three rules I try to follow:

    1. Keep your face wet & lathered
    2. Watch your Angle
    3. No pressure (if your just starting out with a DE this takes some time to learn)

    If your getting cut I would venture a guess that it's one of these causing the problem.
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    Thanks i will try some other stuff. yes I am new to DE shaving. Being that the Derby are not the sharpest blades I will try a different blade tonight. ¥es i am using art of shaving soap and I build a nice lather. funny thing is that it is mostly on the right side of my neck my left gets irritated but not as much..

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    I've been shaving with an Edwin Jagger for a couple of months, and had similar start up issues. It isn't the razor, or the blades. In my case it was operator error. Your face needs time to adjust, and you need to give yourself time to learn to refine your touch. A very light hand is necessary. Beard reduction. This is not a contest, which is a lesson I needed to learn. I have used Derby, but the inexpensive, Wilkinson blades at WalMart are forgiving, and separate whiskers from your face....

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    "funny thing is that it is mostly on the right side of my neck my left gets irritated but not as much.."

    Do you switch hands, left hand for the left side, right hand for the right side? If your switching hands, you might be pressing harder with your dominate hand, lighter with the other (less control & confidence)
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    I'd also recommend trying different blades in your razor. You've started with a great razor, but when it comes to blades, everyone's face is a little different. Derby Extra blades are a perfect example. I love them. They work pretty well for my face in a wide variety of razors. Just about half of the people that try them say they really don't like them, though. I think too often, rookies are too quick to "blame the equipment", but with DE blades, sometimes they are the right. Find another blade that is not quite as painful to learn with, then after a month or so come back and try the Derbys again.

    The left side of my neck is always harder for me to get really smooth, so it would always be more irritated than the right side. It's just the way my beard grows. Until you've had some practice, give yourself permission to settle for a less than perfect shave. Just because you can run your hand against the grain an feel roughness, doesn't mean anyone else can see it. Do 2 passes and check the mirror. With lighter colored hair, you might even get away with 1 pass. After you've found some comfortable blades, had some practice, and your face has gotten used to this type of shaving, you'll be able to go 3 passes and get that Baby's Bottom Smooth shave.

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    Did anybody say NO PRESSURE yet....just let the weight of the razor glide over your face.....no PUSHING DOWN....am I clear. Now have fun

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    I think this is an old Obie trick but the sure fire way to avoid bearing down on the razor is to hold the handle as low (far away from the head of the razor) as possible. Blood spots and general irritation are usually dead giveaways of too much pressure/ bad angle.
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