I got rid of my goat n stash recently and have real problems shaving my top lip bottom lip and chin, intact as i write this I look like I was run over by the lawnmower from today's shave.

Having said that, I have found that the only way i can shave my chin and under my nose ATG is by holding the razor on both hands, now I know what a barbers notch is for.

Course I still look like i survived a car wreck so maybe both hands hasn't helped

Maybe I should go back to the goat n stash, just stick to high gradin