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    Quote Originally Posted by bknesal View Post
    September 11, 2001, around 9:00 a.m. They did use box-cutter as weapons, which are no more dangerous than a freshly sharpened straight razor.
    So true.
    The irony is, a chopstick or a pencil in the right/wrong hands is just as dangerous.
    The white gleam of swords, not the black ink of books, clears doubts and uncertainties and bleak outlooks.

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    So I suppose we should all wrap ourselves padding and go back to eating with our hands because, you know, knives and forks are dangerous.

    But then again, you can kill someone with your hands, so I suppose we should have those dealt with somehow.

    Seriously, I wish people would just stop with this crap. Anything can be a weapon, but only in the hands of someone who wants to use it as one, which isn't most people. And my sending a straight razor through the mail is about as dangerous as a knife on a table in an empty room. It's only dangerous if some wacko picks it up and starts aiming it at people. This is pretty difficult when I'm in NZ, and the razor is probably floating somewhere over the ocean.

    To be fair, the guy didn't really give me any problems sending it, but he still gave me the weirdest look. As if he doesn't have knives in his kitchen, and a huge pair of scissors sitting on his desk. *sigh*

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    But you have to remember the saying 'going postal' does refer to the number of time postal workers around the world have gone crazy with weapons. And now they have your razor.

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    I would too, if I did their job. Fortunately my razor couldn't cut butter at the moment!

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    Its always the dull ones that cut you lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by khaos View Post
    LOL I'll tell you a funnier story. I was going to pay a parking ticket at the courthouse downtown and then mail off my Tally Ho to be restored. SO... at the court you have to go through a metal detector and you should have seen the look on their faces when I pulled out a big old medieval-looking honking 8/8 wedge. They were like... "uh........ you're gonna have to leave that here sir" and I just laughed lol.
    in PA they could have kept that razor as it falls into the law of you cant carry autos ballies or razors (cause there frighting )
    but you can carry a 6 inch belt knife if your not hiding it
    one wanders how laws get mixed up like this

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    Yeah but they need to keep the public, news, and politicians relatively at bay. If that means not allowing straight razors on planes and giving you weird looks at the post office, then there's nothing we can do about it. They don't know what you're going to do with that box cutter: you may intend on opening a box, but you may also intend on using it to crash a plane into a very important building. We know our intentions, but they can't read our minds. The only safe conclusion is to assume everyone wants to destroy everything in every way possible.

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    My postman as well as the clerks in the office have seen me come and go so many times they dont question it anymore, at first there were a lot of raised eyebrows but now I and the razors are commonplace to them, Ignorance breeds fear, a short tutorial/conversation about your hobby will go a long way in nuetralizing the fear.
    It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain

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    Quote Originally Posted by bknesal View Post
    Yeah but they need to keep the public, news, and politicians relatively at bay. If that means not allowing straight razors on planes and giving you weird looks at the post office, then there's nothing we can do about it. They don't know what you're going to do with that box cutter: you may intend on opening a box, but you may also intend on using it to crash a plane into a very important building. We know our intentions, but they can't read our minds. The only safe conclusion is to assume everyone wants to destroy everything in every way possible.
    "He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither" - Benjamin Franklin

    I don't think it's particularly fair for my government to assume that I, a citizen with no criminal history nor any seeming ill will towards anyone, am out to destroy everything in every possible way.

    The fact that some airports have the equipment to scan my computer's harddrive, and have searched me for no reason other than the fact that I have tattoos, flies in the face of what a country of the free is supposed to be about.

    You can't live your life constantly paranoid about everyone. And if you think that mentality keeps us "safe," well, think again. The baddies are always getting more clever, and we're still focusing on the way they did things 10 years ago. But if they're stupid enough to keep doing illegal things the exact same way for 10 years, they aren't much of a threat, are they.

    Paranoia leads to the giving away of rights, and neither freedom nor security can spring from that sort of environment.

    I refuse to live in fear of my neighbour. If he wants to own 15 guns and an arsenal of antique battle axes, fine by me. The big question is, do I feel like I can go ask for a pinch of sugar? If yes, then his hobby horse concerns me not.

    *cough* Sorry.

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    Lol while I am not paranoid nor do I think paranoia is justified, it doesn't help when you use fear-politics as your primary basis that terrorists hijack and blow up planes, or that a soldier goes ape shit and kills 15 people. Like, sure its terrible, but how many hundreds of flights take off and land every day, SAFELY? The odds of being on a hijacked plane are literally one in thousands. But when the government puts up an official alert about it, it seems like more of a threat than it is. Why should my plane going from Ithaca NY to Elmira NY be hijacked? Who would want to blow up anything in backwood NY? But for some reason the "security" is blanketed and so the politicians create a threat when there really is none.

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