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    Quote Originally Posted by adbuett View Post
    I would suppose then, if this explanation holds true, that cold water shaving is harder on an edge than hot water shaving? From what I understand cold water is making hair more "brittle", thus allowing the edge to bite into it easier.

    I think though that edges are a lot tougher than some people give them credit for. You're going to have to do something serious to really hurt an edge to the point where stropping or a quick couple laps on a barber's hone wont make the edge right again.
    This is assuming though that brittle is the opposite of hard?

    From and engineering point of view, i would say whiskers are tough, that is resistance to impact as opposed to hard, which is resistance to deformation. Increasing the brittleness through cold water shave is the same as make the whiskers less "tough", ie it is easier to cut them. although they can remain hard. Although strictly in the case of cold water we should say "makes it easier to fracture them.

    So not necssarily more destructive to the edge as it takes a lot less force and effort to effectuvely fracture the hair than to cut it if it were a dry shave.

    In the case of warm water shaves, my hypothesis is that through the action of lather, water and heat, you soften the hair, decreasing its hardness thereby increasing its "cleavage" which is its capacity to be cut.

    as i said, these are just my hypotheses on the subject

    and i may have my terminology wrong, but i know what I'm trying to get at uni was a while ago

    Edit: I pretty sure ductility needs a mention in the warm lather shave hypothesis.. Will have a think, goes hand in hand with cleavage anyway, and cleavage maybe an outdated term
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    Quote Originally Posted by tekbow View Post

    In the case of warm water shaves, my hypothesis is that through the action of lather, water and heat, you soften the hair, decreasing its hardness thereby increasing its "cleavage" which is its capacity to be cut.

    Cleavage is good . I'm all for increasing it .
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    Quote Originally Posted by dave5225 View Post
    Cleavage is good . I'm all for increasing it .
    dammit.. its 2nd year materials engineering all over again..
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    Ah, but the lathering is a significant part of the entire shaving experience which adds to the stropping, the shave itself and finally the aftershave and becomes greater than the sum of its parts. I wouldn't enjoy the experience nearly as much without it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leadduck View Post
    Ah, but the lathering is a significant part of the entire shaving experience which adds to the stropping, the shave itself and finally the aftershave and becomes greater than the sum of its parts. I wouldn't enjoy the experience nearly as much without it.
    Well said!!!!!
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    Excellent! Thanks for all the ideas as to what's going on. I'm merely a humble chemist, so unless we're talking about shaving with harsh chemicals, I'm flying by the seat of my solvent soaked pants!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leadduck View Post
    Ah, but the lathering is a significant part of the entire shaving experience which adds to the stropping, the shave itself and finally the aftershave and becomes greater than the sum of its parts. I wouldn't enjoy the experience nearly as much without it.
    Quote Originally Posted by dave5225 View Post
    Cleavage is good . I'm all for increasing it .
    I fully agree with both of those statements

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaiusValeriusPulcher View Post
    I fully agree with both of those statements
    As do I.

    I will also add nothing to the conversation by saying that dry-shaving makes my poor skin beg for mercy. I haven't tried out cold-water shaving yet, though my curiosity may get the better of me...

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