Thread: Chinese 12k

Originally Posted by cosperryan

Why would you do that. Have you even tried it yet? Its a natural, they vary, thats what they do. You know I have a coticule that is so smooth it makes butter jealous, then I have a coticule that is courser than the BBW side of it. Do I regret buying it. No I do not. It is still a very useful stone. When I bought my Chinese stone, I was apprehensive about its capabilities. Everyone described the indicators of a bad stone and mine seemed to have all those qualities. Did I turn it around and sell it? No I figured out a place for it in my progression. Then guess what after a while I finally figured out how to truly use it. Its not a bad stone at all. It rivals my best finisher. Did I have to buy 4 of them to find the best one? No, I got lucky and got a good one even though I didn't know it at first. Not saying your is crap or not but don't assume the stone is crap just because some one else said they vary in quality and the one he got from wood craft sucked. It doesn't mean yours sucks. You have to try for yourself before you can say whether its crap or not. Then that too even depends on variables. Maybe it won't work for you but maybe for someone else they can get it too work because their skill is different.

People always go on about the JNATs too. Do you know how often those things vary from one extreme to the next? A stupid amount. Coticules too. Yet people are always buying them praising them too.

Natural hone threads are all the same just with a different name.

All due respect I already did say that I was going to keep it & try it.
Thank you.

I have 2 PHIGS from Woodcraft, both are excellent finishers.
Many members don't take the time to read the Pros/Cons threads that are available on SRP, then they purchase a PHIG & hone with it as though t's a Shapton 16, Or Naniwa 12.
Being a natural stone it can vary in the performance from one members stone to another.

Originally Posted by engine46

All due respect I already did say that I was going to keep it & try it.
Thank you.

Yeah, sorry I type slow. It only appeared after I posted and the paged refreshed.

My C12K is probably my most used finisher, it's very slow so I do three sets of 20 1/2 x-strokes per side, a set of circles then 50 x-strokes. I get super edges that way

Originally Posted by cosperryan

Yeah, sorry I type slow. It only appeared after I posted and the paged refreshed.

Thank you, I type slow too and I'm not here to start an argument or anything like that. I only said what I said because anything else from China is what it is & I normally don't buy anything from there but I was wrong due to the fact it is a natural stone. I own Shapton, Naniwa & Norton stones & even a Coticule I bought from SRD & they all work great so I feel as though I will have good results with it one way or another. Thank you for your comment.

Originally Posted by rodb

My C12K is probably my most used finisher, it's very slow so I do three sets of 20 1/2 x-strokes per side, a set of circles then 50 x-strokes. I get super edges that way

I will try that when i get mine. Thank you!

In chatting with a very reputable Honemeister he told me the Phig's was his finisher of choice for all swedish razors......

I just have to say that the whole point there are no grit on natural stones I find freaking ridiculous!

I mean grit is determined by the particle size from which a stone consists and although its hard to determine the size of the particle it isn't impossible!

If any1 knows why they dont just say the equivalent grit I'd be much appreciative!

Originally Posted by babarog

I just have to say that the whole point there are no grit on natural stones I find freaking ridiculous!

I mean grit is determined by the particle size from which a stone consists and although its hard to determine the size of the particle it isn't impossible!

If any1 knows why they dont just say the equivalent grit I'd be much appreciative!

Not to change the subject but I saw a grit/micron crossover chart on here somewhere, I think in the Library but now I can't find it. It could be of some help.

Originally Posted by babarog

I just have to say that the whole point there are no grit on natural stones I find freaking ridiculous!

I mean grit is determined by the particle size from which a stone consists and although its hard to determine the size of the particle it isn't impossible!

If any1 knows why they dont just say the equivalent grit I'd be much appreciative!

For the simple reason that every individual stone would have to be tested, natural stones vary so much.