Thread: found a brother to one of my GREAVES

Use the horn scales for your patterns when making the new ones,the wood scales to my eye do not work.

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

Use the horn scales for your patterns when making the new ones,the wood scales to my eye do not work.

yes , I agree , those wood ones are one of the first sets I made and was never happy with them , I saw a original scales chart of patterns on Zak's site that I think are pretty close to the horn ones onthe new to me razor that im gonna use .. still trying to decide between Honey horn or black , then finding horn at a place where there isn't a minimum order

Originally Posted by gooser

yes , I agree , those wood ones are one of the first sets I made and was never happy with them , I saw a original scales chart of patterns on Zak's site that I think are pretty close to the horn ones onthe new to me razor that im gonna use .. still trying to decide between Honey horn or black , then finding horn at a place where there isn't a minimum order

Why not just use the current scales for the template? They look original to me.

Originally Posted by ScienceGuy

Why not just use the current scales for the template? They look original to me.

I agree with ScienceGuy. I save old scales even if they're broken just for patterns. I also use old broken horn to make shavings for fillers.

There's no way I would remove/replace the scales on the black one, unless they are damaged. Those scales would clean up beautifully,,, IMO

Here's an old Greaves blade I need to make some scales for. They became Wm Greaves & Sons in 1801 when William's two sons joined in. This blade is early 1800's, not 1801 or anything like that because of the tail length & it not being a stubby.

Originally Posted by Hirlau

There's no way I would remove/replace the scales on the black one, unless they are damaged. Those scales would clean up beautifully,,, IMO

tip was missing on reverse side of pics all the way to the pin ( gone) and 2 cracks around wedge pin with a piece missing (no where to be found ) I agree though , I don't make a habit of removing old scales unless I have too , I was goona use but where end was missing by pivot pin it finished its break when I opened the razor when I was going to hone .. on a side note after seeing your pictures it sucks that the original was so damaged but on a bright side the honey horn I ordered couple days ago is gonna match just right and since the first Greaves one I had of this came in a beat up pair of wood scales I will have 2 now with the outfit close to what they should have on them ..!
after a clean up ..

Look familiar Gooser ?





This is what lies underneath that "black coating" on those scales. I believe the scales to be turtle, as many turtles are seen wth the black coating in the wild, such as those swamp , water turtles,, that coating is removed to get those nice combs & such you see. I could be wrong, but maybe not,,,
45 minutes of EZ-Off Heavy Duty on the entire razor, ate the black off,,, brushed off with a toothbrush & dish soap,,, loosened the surface rust, left the washers shiny,,, the blade was wirked with steel wool & 3m paper,,,,

[QUOTE=Hirlau;1456851]Look familiar Gooser ?

This is what lies underneath that "black coating" on those scales. I believe the scales to be turtle, as many turtles are seen wth the black coating in the wild, such as those swamp , water turtles,, that coating is removed to get those nice combs & such you see. I could be wrong, but maybe not,,,
45 minutes of EZ-Off Heavy Duty on the entire razor, ate the black off,,, brushed off with a toothbrush & dish soap,,, loosened the surface rust, left the washers shiny,,, the blade was wirked with steel wool & 3m paper,,,,

Good job well done John!!!

Originally Posted by ScienceGuy

Why not just use the current scales for the template? They look original to me.

yeah I had traced them already as I thought they were the originals , when I looked at the patterns they are pretty close if not the same .. im gonna swap the wood out for the same ..

Originally Posted by engine46

I agree with ScienceGuy. I save old scales even if they're broken just for patterns. I also use old broken horn to make shavings for fillers.

I hear ya , I have a whole draw of pattern scales that came off of old razors ..