Thread: Charnley forest stone

It looks very similar to the one I have got from Marcus.
Also the little black dots.

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

kees what makes you think this is charnley forest stone?
i am asking this because i want learn. i know charnley with different colors etc but want to know why you calling this charnley forest?
Don;t get me wrong i love charnley forest and own couple of them.

I got these from a seasoned antiques dealer from whom I have bought things in the past. I have come to rely on his judgement. He tends to err on the side caution. He knows I am looking for C.F. hones at the moment, he has many more hones that look pretty similar that he does not want to sell to me because he is not sure of their provenance. At the end of the day it is a matter of trust. He never let me down. If you (or anyone else) win this item and you are convinced it is not a C.F. feel free to return it to me and I'll fully refund you.

Here is an old post showing Sham's CF hones. What I found is that the photos can be deceiving because they tend to lighten the color of the stones. They really are olive green IME with figuring in them. There may be more or less figure and it may be more or less, lighter or darker. There are black specks here and there in the two that I have seen up close and personal. Slow cutters both but I only used them with water. I've heard oil is the way to go with them.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Here is an old post showing Sham's CF hones. What I found is that the photos can be deceiving because they tend to lighten the color of the stones. They really are olive green IME with figuring in them. There may be more or less figure and it may be more or less, lighter or darker. There are black specks here and there in the two that I have seen up close and personal. Slow cutters both but I only used them with water. I've heard oil is the way to go with them.

I could not think of a better way to describe them. C.F.'s were traditionally used with oil. However I feel oil and swarf tend to form a layer on top of the stone that reduces the cutting speed.

Originally Posted by Kees

. If you (or anyone else) win this item and you are convinced it is not a C.F. feel free to return it to me and I'll fully refund you.

Kees i did mention in my post it is not trust or not to trust post. i wanted to learn about them more that is why i asked, i have couple of them. 1 is similar to your stone but i am not sure it is chrnley forest or not. I got in similar case seller said it is a charnley forest and i said ok.
exactly to say Now i end up 3 different color's and first 2 does have red fault lines ,dots etc. color as Jimmy mention olive green etc but 3 rd one confuses me. I am testing them and they do give me different results.
I thought you may know more and can help figure it out.That is the reason i asked .

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

Now i end up 3 different color's and first 2 does have red fault lines ,dots etc. color as Jimmy mention olive green etc but 3 rd one confuses me. I am testing them and they do give me different results..

What occurs to me Sham is the differences in results everyone agrees there are in coticules and other natural stones. Another case in point the celebrated Nakayama. Why not differences in the results of CFs too?

Jimmy i understand that they will not be exactly same to each other. similar escher's they even have different color from factory and produce different results.
Find out stone is charnley or not it is very easy if you see fault lines,red dots etc and say i am sure this is 100%.
when comes to last picture of the stones which i have post or kees picture No one says it is charnley because of this or that. i thought Kees may know more then we do and give me clear answer and we can learn from it.
That stone may be the best charnley forest stone? i don't think we can say it is not or yes?
i hope he do test all of them and can come to some conclusion

Just tested the one from Marcus for the first time on a very old Henckels
after the Escher and I cannot complain. Thats where is should be in the progression or maybe instead of.

Originally Posted by 0livia

Just tested the one from Marcus for the first time on a very old Henckels
after the Escher and I cannot complain. Thats where is should be in the progression or maybe instead of.

I would suggest, if I may, trying both options. I mean after for a blade and instead of for another and see which is preferable.

Yes,maybe I'll try with two identical ones.
One test isn't enough anyway.