Thread: Old mystery razor! Is it really old or just old?

Originally Posted by Mauri

I have recently read about "restauration" (French) razors. They were razors made in France, about mid 1800, in the shape of the 1700 razors. They have been state of the art for some time there, but this fashion ended with the XIX century.
Here are mine:

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(sorry for the bad pic, it's night time here in Italy)
All of them are good blades.
I also have other two French old STR8S that look to be from 1820 - 1840, but knowing this taste for old style stuff that the French people proved to have in that century, I don't know how much can I trust the dating method I used...

Exactly Mr Mauri : the tow on the top are from the beginning of the XIX century, and the bottom one : merly from the mid century !

Here are a picture taken in an old 1880 book about the history of bladesmith and cutlers (the writter is Pagès a master cutler from Chatelrault) : you can see the different french fashion in the design of the blades and scales :

Thanks for the picture, that is exactly what I was referring to!

[QUOTE=charlie48horlogerie;919096]Exactly Mr Mauri : the tow on the top are from the beginning of the XIX century, and the bottom one : merly from the mid century !

Is there some particular reason for your dating of the first two to the beginning of the XIX century? The larger, butcher blade is obviously from the 50s, but the other two look quite generically shaped to me. The first blade, in particular, has a real strange notch, and has no jimps. I just can't find a clear date for it...

Here are a picture taken in an old 1880 book about the history of bladesmith and cutlers (the writter is Pagès a master cutler from Chatelrault)

Yes. Camille Pagé (1844-1917) - cutler and encyclopaedist, who made a great work. He collected since 1896 to 1904 all info about profession in six volumes.
I read his books periodically, but to read in French isn't so easy for me.

I found a place where to buy them. But before I spend all that money, could you tell me if they are all about razors or about cutlery in general' Maybe there is some specific volume which is dedicated to STR8S?

Originally Posted by Mauri

I found a place where to buy them. But before I spend all that money, could you tell me if they are all about razors or about cutlery in general' Maybe there is some specific volume which is dedicated to STR8S?

I must say, the existence of these books is making me seriously think about learning French.

seriously think about learning French.

These six volumes in French.
I have a very nice and informative book in Italian.
I have two volumes of very informative source in German.
Unfortunately, I have no time to learn all these old and beautiful languages. That's why, I use dictionary.
... forgot, English isn't my native language too.

Originally Posted by manah

These six volumes in French.
I have a very nice and informative book in Italian.
I have two volumes of very informative source in German.
Unfortunately, I have no time to learn all these old and beautiful languages. That's why, I use dictionary.
... forgot, English isn't my native language too.

Where I grew up, the school had very poor language classes. I got a different one every year and learned pretty much nothing of any of them.

But I now have at least one writing project in the wings that would require me to learn French, so this is an added incentive.

I don't own a copy of that book, but you can consult it for free at the Bibliothèque Nationale de France on his site, I give you the link, it's a great souce, thourgh a bit a messy one :



La coutellerie depuis l'origine jusqu'à nos jours : la fabrication ancienne & moderne. La coutellerie moderne / par Camille Pagé,...

[QUOTE=Mauri;919104]Thanks for the picture, that is exactly what I was referring to!

Originally Posted by charlie48horlogerie

Exactly Mr Mauri : the tow on the top are from the beginning of the XIX century, and the bottom one : merly from the mid century !

Is there some particular reason for your dating of the first two to the beginning of the XIX century? The larger, butcher blade is obviously from the 50s, but the other two look quite generically shaped to me. The first blade, in particular, has a real strange notch, and has no jimps. I just can't find a clear date for it...

I Have the same one with the strange barber notch :



It's a Rambouillet-Wichard from Nogent, Hte Marne, registred in 1820 of as master cutler :


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Originally Posted by manah

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... forgot, English isn't my native language too.

Most of us would be lost without you, thank you so much for your time and knowledge!