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10-11-2008, 08:03 PM #1
Deleting and reposting is not an issue in itself, although you shouldn't do this repeatedly for the same item, only to get more views imo. But if there is a legit reason, there is no problem.
The problem is that some people delete their ads just to get rid of comments they don't like.
If you sell an item that is severely overpriced, and someone posts a link to a place where that same item sells for half price, it is childish and greedy to get rid of those comments in the hope that someone doesn't know said item is overpriced and buys it.
This is still a community, where people should be able to perform transactions with a certain kind of trust, instead of expecting to be fleeced.
People trying to game the system for the sole purpose of maximizing profit in an unfair manner have no place here.Til shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
To spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day
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10-11-2008, 08:27 PM #2
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10-13-2008, 02:12 AM #3
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10-13-2008, 10:06 AM #4
The classifieds is a relatively new piece of infrastructure for us, and we are trying to deal with things as they come along.
An outright discussion of prices is offtopic.
But it would be perfectly ok to post a comment, linking to e.g classicshaving and asking the seller if that is the same razor.
I know: we are talking about semantics here, but we are trying to find a compromise between keeping price discussions private (after all: supply and demand set the final price) and allowing a reality check to prevent newbies from falling for outrageous prices, as has sadly happened already.
As I said: we are still trying to determine a good compromise, but this is not something that is 100% correct at the first attempt. If people have questions or concerns, they can either post them here or send a PM.
This topic is actively being talked about among us, and we value all input.Til shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
To spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day
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10-13-2008, 04:00 PM #5
How would you suggest approaching this type of situation when there isn't a similar razor to be found? If you find a pitted wade and butcher with a few water and rust spots and cracked scales, with a tiny chip in the toe being sold for 90 bucks - or a no name razor in similar condition - what should the protocol be for this type of posting? As far as I know, classicshaving doesn't have this type of stuff for sale...
I feel that newbies should not be ripped off in this type of situation just because it says "wade and butcher".
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10-13-2008, 05:20 PM #6
Going back to the original BST forum would be the best solution IMHO but I suppose that is a moot point.
Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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10-13-2008, 05:26 PM #7
Why do I always miss all the good stuff? I've heard mention of razors being listed for exorbitant prices in the classifieds in the last few months but I haven't seen examples of that. Goes to show I have HAD more than RAD. Maybe someone can PM me and bring me up to speed on some examples? I don't approve of gossip unless I'm privy to it.
Chris L"Blues fallin' down like hail." Robert Johnson
"Aw, Pretty Boy, can't you show me nuthin but surrender?" Patti Smith
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10-13-2008, 06:17 PM #8
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10-13-2008, 06:40 PM #9
They way we see it now (but feel free to add your thoughts) is that the description would have to match the item. And that would be where the room for discussion is.
If you see a razor that looks like smurf, it could have a description like
'Old crappy razor. The scales are worth smurf, but the bolsters are in good condition, and the blade can be restored by someone who wants to spend the time. 50$'
If the blade indeed looks like it could be restored AND if the description is truthful, then the price is not up for discussion because people can ask what they want, and the potential buyer knows what he is getting into.
Otoh if that same razor gets advertised 'great collectors item. a valuable addition to anyone's collection, so sharp it cuts paper' you are free to point out that that razor has issues.
Descriptions should be truthful and are open to discussion.
And if the seller then removes and recreates the ad because of those comments, we will have alook. We count on you guys to bring such an even to our attention because we obviously don't have time to monitor the classifieds in realtime.
And if we have to conclude that this was wilfully done by someone who knows better, then we will take action.Til shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
To spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day
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10-13-2008, 07:51 PM #10
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Thanked: 3795A recently notable ad that has been pulled and re-posted repeatedly seems to have lost the comments that were with it. Is there now a way that the comments can be pulled or are moderators pulling off comments addressing price objections?