Thread: How NOT to create an ad

Originally Posted by Utopian

Maybe fraud is the wrong word. Maybe it was not as blatant as your red/blue analogy, but he stated the razors could be fixed up and sold for $100 apiece. Yes each person can make their own assessment, but I see no reason to tolerate such a blatant misrepresentation.

I would also like to point out that those blades would not be good restoration practice material. With chips like that, the strength of the blades is decreased dramatically. Want to see a razor explode? Take one of those blades to a buffer.

Originally Posted by Scipio

... Had it been listed as an ad purely for spares then it would have been far less likely to have been removed; it may even have sold. ...

Everyone has their own perception of value. To me, anything salvageable from that lot would not be worth the cost of shipping if they parts were free.

Originally Posted by Bruno

The text in bold red is mine.

Thanks Bruno for this thread. Based on 2 of your sig lines, maybe it should be "The text in blood red is mine." I appreciate the work the mods do to keep this a honest place and full of useful information for the beginner and expericenced alike. I know when I started out as a noob, I might have been just gullible enough to fall for an add like that. Mods rock.

Originally Posted by volleykinginnc

I define fraud as an out and out lie...that is if he claimed that the razors were blue and they were in fact red. BTW I don't know this guy so I have no personal reason to support him, I just think that you can look at his pictures and make your own personal assessement...it certainly isn't fraud.

Yes it is. And if the poster does something like that again he is gone for good.

The things mentioned in that post are a blatant lie.
- None of those razors will be worth 100$, ever.
- None of those razors can be restored with a bit of TLC.
- In fact, one of them looks so rotten that restoring it would be dangerous for newb because it might explode as soon as it touches a buffer or grinding wheel.

The ad contains several outright lies and we don't want that.
If someone doesn't have the integrity to post truthful ads, then they can go.
And if you don't know, there are plenty of people in the restoration forum who could inform you about the restorability of a razor. This site is about nurturing the art of straight shaving, not about providing people a place where they can make a quick buck by dumping junk on unsuspecting newbies.

If you think it should be different then feel free to start your own site because it won't happen here.

MINT!!!!!!!

Damn it Bruno. why'd you have to go pull my ad? Now I have to sell them on ebay.

Can someone suggest a new selling pitch please, as you've all gone and ruined the original one

I don't believe any of SRP member's are foolish enough to have made such a purchase.

Originally Posted by gimpochin

I don't believe any of SRP member's are foolish enough to have made such a purchase.

Given the fact that many of our members (incl me ) arrived here after having made some really bad purchase decisions, I would not count on that.

To be honest, my mistakes were not in the purchase, but in using the material. I lifted the spine to 45 degrees on a pasted strop (because otherwise it doesn't really sharpen) and I used a 60 degree shaving angle instead of a 30 degree angle (because otherwise I'd cut myself).

Originally Posted by Joed

Everyone has their own perception of value. To me, anything salvageable from that lot would not be worth the cost of shipping if they parts were free.

Completely immaterial, the subject in question is the wording and the false description, not the potential value had it been accurately/more appropriately listed as spares.

Originally Posted by Bruno

Yes it is. And if the poster does something like that again he is gone for good.

The things mentioned in that post are a blatant lie.
- None of those razors will be worth 100$, ever.
- None of those razors can be restored with a bit of TLC.
- In fact, one of them looks so rotten that restoring it would be dangerous for newb because it might explode as soon as it touches a buffer or grinding wheel.

The ad contains several outright lies and we don't want that.
If someone doesn't have the integrity to post truthful ads, then they can go.
And if you don't know, there are plenty of people in the restoration forum who could inform you about the restorability of a razor. This site is about nurturing the art of straight shaving, not about providing people a place where they can make a quick buck by dumping junk on unsuspecting newbies.

If you think it should be different then feel free to start your own site because it won't happen here.

Ok fair enough...then I take back my earlier post that my comments were sarcastic...they should be taken literally.

It really is good to know (especially for a newbie like me)that there is finally a place like this to buy razors where all of the ads have been reviewed by an expert and that they perfectly match their descriptions. Especially important to me is if an ad makes a projection about possible future value that it will be accurate and I can expect no less then the claim. It's also good to know that there are absolutely no bad or junk razors sold here.

This is a very good thing to know...I wish other sites were as diligent in maintaining the accuracy of member postings.