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    Hogla...

    "For those of you who shave hard drives, drive on!"

    A poor attempt at playing with words where those with an ability to understand highly technical messages such as those referred to in the OP and make the necesary adjustments to hard/soft ware, where needed, to extricate themselves from the difficult positions which those non-cognoscenti of us will be condemned to continue to flail about in the mire of frustration, seemingly forever.


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    What client are you using?

    SASL authentication is only required on some nets.

    If you tell me what client you are using I will tell you the configuration you need to change to get it to work.

    Right of the bat, I'd change the server to irc.freenode.net and see if that makes this go away.

    For those who are dieing to find out what SASL is, it is authentication using a certificate of authority (CA) to encrypt communications between the client and server. Freenode upgraded to ircd-seven some time ago and this is an option. Emphasis in option, so you needn't authenticate with a CA - which you'd have to download and some other shyte that is really annoying to the non-geeks.

    I'm not encrypting, using pidgin, and connect without problems.

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    Now, if one is just using a simple, single home pc, why would one have to go through all the folderol of servers, routes, etc? I am of the opinion that all I should need to do is go through my ISP by entering a llink to the chat room and, voila, be there to allow others to dip from my fount of knowledge.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    IRC is actually "Old School" as far as internet chatting goes.

    Not supporting IRC is like buying stock in Gillette
    Buying stock in Gillette (Proctor & Gamble) is probably a safe long term investment. By the context I'm guessing that you mean not supporting IRC is bad...

    I understand IRC being old school, and I understand that it probably allows more access options for people than any other chat system. It just seems that it requires users to be more "techy" than any other chat that I've used.


    Quote Originally Posted by Snake View Post
    What client are you using?

    SASL authentication is only required on some nets.

    If you tell me what client you are using I will tell you the configuration you need to change to get it to work.

    Right of the bat, I'd change the server to irc.freenode.net and see if that makes this go away.

    For those who are dieing to find out what SASL is, it is authentication using a certificate of authority (CA) to encrypt communications between the client and server. Freenode upgraded to ircd-seven some time ago and this is an option. Emphasis in option, so you needn't authenticate with a CA - which you'd have to download and some other shyte that is really annoying to the non-geeks.

    I'm not encrypting, using pidgin, and connect without problems.
    The problem is when using Pidgin portable. SSL is turned off, and the server it's pointed to is irc.freenode.net.

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    do you have a registered nickname on freenet?

    it seems your portable pidgin is using tor as a proxy, which wants some authentication. I'm not a user of the portable version, and am not using tor (or any proxy), so I'm troubleshooting dry.

    seems the easy fix is to uncheck the use ssl option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake View Post
    do you have a registered nickname on freenet?

    it seems your portable pidgin is using tor as a proxy, which wants some authentication. I'm not a user of the portable version, and am not using tor (or any proxy), so I'm troubleshooting dry.

    seems the easy fix is to uncheck the use ssl option.
    I do have a registered nick, and "Use SSL" is unchecked (turned off).

    Could this have anything to do with my ISP and some kind of security protocols they have in place?

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    Well there is also that chat button on the srp menu that goes to the freenode's webchat - you still have to pick a screen name that's not used on freenode though.

    The problem is that there isn't anything else that is better. There were two other chats that we ran on our server before switching to IRC (one java and one php) and they were much much worse than IRC. Slower, crashing all the time, using huge amounts of memory on people's computers, allowing very limited number of people to be in chat at the same time...

    And you couldn't use them with anything mobile either.

    It seems to me that IRC offers way too many options to use it and that makes it difficult for people to pick one and use it.

    I think the instructions how to set it up and use it through a number of different ways are pretty good and easy to follow, and to improve them there is a need for specific feedback:
    Using the SRP Chat - Straight Razor Place Wiki

    I don't see what can be more easy than 'click on the ichat link on the menu and enter a screenname'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post
    I don't see what can be more easy than 'click on the ichat link on the menu and enter a screenname'.
    Well, it would be easier if someone would click the link for me and rub my feet while they're at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post
    Well there is also that chat button on the srp menu that goes to the freenode's webchat - you still have to pick a screen name that's not used on freenode though.

    The problem is that there isn't anything else that is better. there were two other chats that were running on our server before we switched (one java and one php) and they were much much worse than IRC. Slower, crashing all the time, using huge amounts of memory on people's computers, allowing very limited number of people to be in chat at the same time...

    And you couldn't use them with anything mobile either.

    It seems to me that IRC offers way too many options to use it and that makes it difficult for people to pick one and use it.

    I think the instructions how to set it up and use it through a number of different ways are pretty good and easy to follow, and to improve them there is a need for specific feedback:
    Using the SRP Chat - Straight Razor Place Wiki

    I don't see what can be more easy than 'click on the ichat link on the menu and enter a screenname'.
    Fortunately the chat client here does work for me now. (The reason I started using Pidgin in the first place was because for a long time it didn't).
    I am able to use my freenode registered nick, I just have to message nickserv to identify myself when I log in.
    I don't mean to make a big deal out of what is now a non-issue (since I have a means of accessing the chat), but I would like to use Pidgin again, as I like the interface better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gugi View Post
    I don't see what can be more easy than 'click on the ichat link on the menu and enter a screenname'.
    the chatbox

    don't you remember those fine, warm days meeting olga hoho under the dingleberry tree, perched high above the forum chatter? unless I am mistaken, IIRC, YMMV, my two cents' worth, I feel, IMVHO, we had to let loose of the chatbox to make way for a new vb skin
    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian View Post
    Well, it would be easier if someone would click the link for me and rub my feet while they're at it.
    I thought you were married
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