Thread: I'm number one!

Shipping sent through Paypal! you should get notification shortly.

Many thanks Colleen,
Payment sent, and with it my heartfelt gratitude for all your effort.
Cheers,
Ed

Originally Posted by azjoe

... from what I can tell, it will be virtually impossible to get the cost of shipping any "hazardous" substance much below $6. ... even if it's legally shippable, by the time you prove that to the USPS...

Well, I've done some more digging this afternoon and I think I'll recant on what I said this morning. I have found enough info to suggest that alcohol containing aftershave can be shipped domestically via surface mail so long as each package contains less than a pint of alcohol total. Surface mail is slow but relatively inexpensive... e.g., a 1-lb package could be shipped from WV to AZ for about $3.80 (give or take) and would have an 8-day delivery. It would need to be marked to meet the requirements of an ORD-M Consumer Commodity package.


ok... my head hurts from reading all that crap!! ... I think I need a nice glass of scotch now

Originally Posted by azjoe

Well, I've done some more digging this afternoon and I think I'll recant on what I said this morning. I have found enough info to suggest that alcohol containing aftershave can be shipped domestically via surface mail so long as each package contains less than a pint of alcohol total. Surface mail is slow but relatively inexpensive... e.g., a 1-lb package could be shipped from WV to AZ for about $3.80 (give or take) and would have an 8-day delivery. It would need to be marked to meet the requirements of an ORD-M Consumer Commodity package.


ok... my head hurts from reading all that crap!! ... I think I need a nice glass of scotch now

Joe,
In your honor, I just poured a glass of Laphroaig 10-yr.
Cheers,
Ed

Originally Posted by ForestryProf

Joe,
In your honor, I just poured a glass of Laphroaig 10-yr.
Cheers,
Ed

Laphroaig... ... damn... alcohol... liquid... surface mail/10-days...

[thanks Ed! ]

...joe

Funds have been sent!

RT

Originally Posted by azjoe

Well, I've done some more digging this afternoon and I think I'll recant on what I said this morning. I have found enough info to suggest that alcohol containing aftershave can be shipped domestically via surface mail so long as each package contains less than a pint of alcohol total. Surface mail is slow but relatively inexpensive... e.g., a 1-lb package could be shipped from WV to AZ for about $3.80 (give or take) and would have an 8-day delivery. It would need to be marked to meet the requirements of an ORD-M Consumer Commodity package.


ok... my head hurts from reading all that crap!! ... I think I need a nice glass of scotch now

Originally Posted by ForestryProf

Joe,
In your honor, I just poured a glass of Laphroaig 10-yr.
Cheers,
Ed

I have never heard of Laphroaig.....but I believe I'd like to have a glass !!

Gentlemen we are very close to being able to ship via USPS, but before I tell that tale......

Yesterday the FedX folks required that I open an account, then wait for a full 24 hours before I could schedule a pick up. Of course I said " well now, I'm already on the phone....why can't you just go ahead and schedule it? " Nope.....no, thats not how its done, after opening an account you must wait 24 hrs. Mrs. Hurley ( obviously to check my "terrorist status" ) So that phone call was placed early this am...they will not pick up until Monday, because Saturday is not a business day.

I'm looking for my glass of Laphroaig....

Not to be deterred, I looked over the links that Joe sent, copied 40 pages of the DMM and Hazardous Materials sections and went to work with the highlighter.

Joe, the information you listed above is accurate and I went back to the PO armed with my highlighted document.... Now for the fun part, the Mabscott PO is very small.....Mabscott is very small, I believe they have two Police cars (I live on the edge of Mabscott) so anyway I know the Postmaster...that'd be Patti and the other lady; her name is Sharon. I convinced them that I was indeed able/allowed to mail these items via surface with the proper labeling.

For times sake.....your boxes will still mail out Monday with FedX as this will cut up to 4 or more days off of the delivery time, so everyone should have your samples by the end of the week. When you receive your boxes they will have a ORM-D label along with the wording "consumer commodity" and "surface" will all appear on the box.

In the meantime, I believe that I am to submit a MSDS sheet to PCSC (pricing and classification service center) to be able to mail thru the Postal service.... not sure about that one though.

The end of it all, rests with the "mailer". I requested information yesterday thru the Hazmat Govt. website and they called me suggesting that while not required, it would be in my best interest to take one of the Hazmat courses for proper packaging and labeling and I will follow up on that.

I read an article today that noted a citation against "Coty" for mailing 27 one ounce bottles of perfume in a box that was not properly labeled and packaged. The box was damaged in transit and leakage was present, when opened the bottles of perfume were discovered and the DOT/Hazmat people slapped Coty with a fine of $57,000.00

Thats enough to make a person want to do it right... I appreciate your patience.

XXWarm Regards, Colleen

Ok Everyone... samples should start arriving soon. (I got mine on Friday afternoon )

That means we have to start testing and reporting our findings. (I hope Colleen chimes in here, because everything I know about evaluating fragrances and lotions and potions would fit in a very small space, lol).

As I started to think how I was going to do it I realized I need some help. A simple "I Like it" or "I don't like it" probably wasn't enough. And that got me thinking maybe we as a group might want to approach this in some semblance of consistency.

My initial thoughts/questions are...

Procedurally,

• I don't necessarily think it's a good idea for each of us to just randomly post our thoughts as we test since this could unknowingly bias a tester who hasn't tried that sample yet.
• I plan on using each sample for several consecutive days before I go on to the next one since I know that often I do/don't like something and then that opinion changes after a couple uses.

What metrics are important to make a good aftershave? Things I can think of are:

1. do I like the fragrance?
2. does it sooth irritation?
3. does it provide any noticeable skin conditioning?
4. is it astringent?
5. how long does the fragrance last?

and then I ran out of ideas... I dunno... what else should be considered??

Please chime in everyone...

Joe, I think you've covered everything

Although I think most will not receive samples for at least another 5 days. Anyone close to WV/East Coast should receive theirs by Wednesday, CA and Utah....I'm thinking around the 1st or 2nd of March.....Friday or Saturday.
(sounds like a long time away when you say the 1st of March. )

When you do get them obviously all the things Joe mentioned. I will keep my fingers crossed that you like all three of them, but where " I learn" is from my mistakes. I don't mind that thoughts are posted here, but if you think you will be biased in your opinion because of someone else's statement, then by all means just PM me.

Other than that, I've always enjoyed the open conversation as it generates other ideas. My feelings are not hurt when you tell me I don't like this or that......but I will be asking the "why" of your thoughts. This is where I will learn to make my adjustments.

I can already tell you that when my Husband saw the brown aftershave...he said, you can't sell that...and I said " I'm not selling it, I'm testing it" there's a difference I don't know that the color is unattractive as much as it is not "mainstream".....its just different. My thought....who knows, maybe we'll start a new trend, or you may very well tell me " I don't care how well it works, I wouldn't be buy a brown aftershave".....thats ok, thats why we're doing the tests.

Testing is Fun! I can hardly wait.
Colleen

I don't know, a brown aftershave might be interesting. I am, however, assuming that it will not be causing a permanent hue to adhere to my somewhat pale face?



Cheers,
Ed