Thread: Is Williams a lost cause?

Maybe Stretch10 will do or has done a video on building lather with Williams.

Being a daily straight razor shaver, at 5:30 am, I don't need something that takes too much effort.

Originally Posted by Scareface

Maybe Stretch10 will do or has done a video on building lather with Williams.

Being a daily straight razor shaver, at 5:30 am, I don't need something that takes too much effort.

There are at least 9 "How to lather" Williams soap vids on You Tube https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...ams+shave+soap .

Bob

Originally Posted by Scareface

I've read a couple of your quotes on Palmolive stick, along with a few other people's, and am finding it peeking my curiosity. I'll probably try it when I make a purchase from a vendor as a throw it in just to try. But, all I read about Arko just doesn't tempt me at all.

I think I'm one of the tiny few who doesn't like the palmolive stick. It lathers up great but the smell is a turn off for me, smells like kitchen cream cleaner YMMV.
Gram for gram the price (in UK) works out very similar to 1kg of cella which I'm a huge fan of.

Originally Posted by Scareface

Maybe Stretch10 will do or has done a video on building lather with Williams.

Being a daily straight razor shaver, at 5:30 am, I don't need something that takes too much effort.

Anthony said he is open to requests, just leave a comment or message him.

Originally Posted by rolodave

+1 BobH

I did a pre-lather with Williams this morning. I formed the lather as if it would be used to shave.

It took a bit (well, a lot longer than VDH) but it did lather well. I let it sit for a while and the Williams did not start to dry until minute 4. Plenty of time to shave.

That's the problem: 4 minutes may be fine for a DE pass, but is not sufficient to complete a proper straight pass.

Neither am I going to rush a straight shave pass just for the sake of using Williams, nor do I believe that I should have to lather up again when ½-way through a pass.


B.

Originally Posted by RedGladiator

I think I'm one of the tiny few who doesn't like the palmolive stick. It lathers up great but the smell is a turn off for me, smells like kitchen cream cleaner YMMV.
Gram for gram the price (in UK) works out very similar to 1kg of cella which I'm a huge fan of.

Just the opposite for me, strongly dislike the milk gone bad smell of Cella and like the Palmolive. Gave the Cella I had away and the Vitos Red for the same reason. Palmolive shave stick just smells like the Palmolive shave cream I used growing up, traditional shave soap.

Bob

Originally Posted by beluga

That's the problem: 4 minutes may be fine for a DE pass, but is not sufficient to complete a proper straight pass.

Neither am I going to rush a straight shave pass just for the sake of using Williams, nor do I believe that I should have to lather up again when ½-way through a pass.


B.

That is a very good point. How long does a SR shave need to be?

So, I timed myself this morning. Big Surprise!

2:45 from lather finish to a one pass DFS.

I was shocked and saddened. Shocked that the time was so short and saddened that all this time, effort and money is spent on something lasting less than 3 minutes.

OTOH, I have a smooth face with no burn or irritation. The wife is happy which is all that matters.

I neither praise nor condemn Williams. Of the 3 dozen soaps I own it would be second from last in shaving comfort and results. Well, I guess I do condemn the soap.

Enough about Williams.

My two pass daily shave is about five minutes. The first pass is stock removal, and the second is light blade buffing (so it could be faster if I wasn't trying to get a very close result).

I've never had a problem with any soap drying out except soap that I've made (as in from lye and oils).

I still like williams fine for what it is. It's about a penny a shave.

I really like MDC for what it is (and someone willing to navigate the french site to get to english and register can get it shipped for less than $60 again), and I'll make a comment that will horrify some. When I use MDC, I don't wash my brush (just like anything else), and I can literally shave two days in a row with the same brush - on the second day I don't add any additional MDC, I just dampen the brush and work up a lather again. The first day I am sparing on how much I use in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised to get 3 years worth of daily shaves out of one tub, it was probably dumb of me to buy another one yesterday because I've barely made a dent in the first one (admittedly, I do usually put a little extra on the brush each day). The second day no-added-soap shave with MDC is still better than most soaps are with a heavily loaded brush. It feels like a cream, I think ...well, because it's pretty much just a hard cream.

And I do like cella, that was mentioned earlier as a good soap for what it costs. It's fabulous. My wife uses it to shave her legs, I don't use it as much because I can only keep two soaps at a time in my cabinet upstairs, but the cella has stopped us from buying bottle after bottle of "skintimate" shave cream.

Gentlemen thanks for the great insight. I in fact got a decent lather out of Williams today and therefore a decent shave. I am not going to bash it again or throw it out. I left it soaking in a mug with my brush, loaded it and went straight to face lather. First time I have face lathered and it came out pretty awesome, thick and cushiony.I leave it at the girlfriends house so I can shave there and save my nice soaps and creams for home. I currently ordered a tub of Omega soap to be my everyday soap replacing the Williams because I've read and watched some reviews on that. Thanks again guys.

Originally Posted by S0LITARYS0LDIER

Gentlemen thanks for the great insight. I in fact got a decent lather out of Williams today and therefore a decent shave. I am not going to bash it again or throw it out. I left it soaking in a mug with my brush, loaded it and went straight to face lather. First time I have face lathered and it came out pretty awesome, thick and cushiony.I leave it at the girlfriends house so I can shave there and save my nice soaps and creams for home. I currently ordered a tub of Omega soap to be my everyday soap replacing the Williams because I've read and watched some reviews on that. Thanks again guys.

That seems counterproductive. JMO