Thread: Savonnerie du Bon Berger ( shaving soap )

Originally Posted by rolodave

I have found the exact opposite. Perhaps your spell checker kicked out a "not"

I, and others, use about 8 to 10 light swirls to get a fantastic lather. Per the MdC website, a jar should be sufficient for 365 shaves.

I need to fix this. I meant to say that "you don't need a lot..."

Originally Posted by RobinK

Granted, the latter point is the most subjective, but MdC positively dries out my skin. Even if used for two days in a row. That is the real deal breaker for me. There are quite a few soaps around that are efficient, and effective. Compared to those, MdC falls miserably short in that department. Otherwise nice, but I refuse to spend money on soaps that fall short in any department.

And yes, I really like Savonnerie du bon Berger. A lot. Blame it on Wim.

While I have experienced the opposite, I don't doubt that MDC dries out your skin. We are all different. The nice thing about shaving soaps is that there is a plethora of them, one for every person. I cannot express an opinion on Savennerie du Bon Berger for the simple reason that I have not tried it...yet.

Well, it costs about as much as one of these newfangled hipster soaps with cheap fragrance oils and cyanide, so why not give it a try? It won't break the bank, and if you like MdC, you'll like it, too. Promise.

Originally Posted by RobinK

..... these newfangled hipster soaps with cheap fragrance oils and cyanide,.....

Huh? Sounds like some secret agent suicide soap! Didn't know they had cyanide! lol

Cyanide !! Remember it's all natural and paraben free though...(chuckle)

Originally Posted by RobinK

Well, it costs about as much as one of these newfangled hipster soaps with cheap fragrance oils and cyanide, so why not give it a try?

Robin, I wish you would be more specific on which soaps actually contain cyanide, otherwise this is just hyperbole.

Originally Posted by Razorfaust

Robin, I wish you would be more specific on which soaps actually contain cyanide, otherwise this is just hyperbole.

Yes, sincere apologies. I sometimes forget that most people are allergic to original research. Here you are. There is a lot of hilarity in this thread over at TFWMNBN.

I just found an ebay seller who had two samples of MDC in the (regular scent) for sale, I purchased one of them this evening and when I get a chance to try it out a few times I'll get back and let everybody know how I like it.

Scott

Originally Posted by RobinK

Yes, sincere apologies. I sometimes forget that most people are allergic to original research. Here you are. There is a lot of hilarity in this thread over at TFWMNBN.

I see a problem between your label and the one on the website. I just see a few ingredients listed and not the ones listed in your links from 2013. I've never used PAA, but am expecting samples in the mail tomorrow. I feel confident in using because I can't find any reports of anyone who has been poisoned from shaving. In the mail I have a sample of MDC as well. I'm sure it will be wonderful experience using it. That is until the second time I use and start counting the quarter US Dollar for every swirl I make.

I'm not sure about Germany, but here in the United States of America we have wonderful hand crafted soaps made from people that not only care about the quality of their own product, but that of the entire wet shave community. I haven't ever heard of one using marketing to belittle their competition. Instead I hear, and see, them add their competitions products to their own websites.

If you want to down the path that says only items that cost the most are worth your money then; it's your world, I'm only living in it. Whereas my preference is to find the things that I feel out preform their cost and I can truthfully say without a doubt before I even try it. MDC will never, repeat never, out perform it's cost.

Originally Posted by jsuiters

I see a problem between your label and the one on the website. I just see a few ingredients listed and not the ones listed in your links from 2013.

"My" label? I'm not sure I can follow. But, well, even HTGAM/PPF/PAA cannot violate FDA regulations for too long. So... they've reduced their list of marvellous ingredients to the basic truth, ie cheap melt and pour base and a few cheap fragrance oils.

Originally Posted by jsuiters

I feel confident in using because I can't find any reports of anyone who has been poisoned from shaving.

How odd. Tell you the truth, if I had caught a company trying to defraud CIA veterans, willfully mislabelling a regulated product, or staging a massive shilling attack against unsuspecting customers, I would not be quite as confident. But that is probably a YMMV thing.

Originally Posted by jsuiters

I'm not sure about Germany, but here in the United States of America we have wonderful hand crafted soaps made from people that not only care about the quality of their own product, but that of the entire wet shave community. I haven't ever heard of one using marketing to belittle their competition. Instead I hear, and see, them add their competitions products to their own websites.

Germany is different. It is full of godless soap Nazis. Hence the complete absence of German shaving soaps in the world market.

It's funny you should bring in nationalism in this context. Funnily enough, and despite its great achievements in terms of consumer protection elsewhere, the FDA has a blind spot when it comes to certain cosmetics products, including HTGAM/PPF/PAA "soaps". I'm sure someone will come up with manipulated software next, but in the interim, let me say that I do not feel confident at all buying hand crafted soaps from the US. For good reasons, as we all know ever since the HTGAM/PPF/PAA scandal.

Now, you may say, "but I know and trust these people", and that's great. I'm sure that most people who hand craft soap are honest people. However, there is still ample opportunity for people to sell mediocre (and worse) stuff made from Chines melt and pour base without you knowing. And that's not so great.

So, yes, Green Mountain Soap is excellent, Cold River Soap Works also very nice. Both proudly made in the US. You see, it's not a national thing. It's a regulatory thing.

Originally Posted by jsuiters

If you want to down the path that says only items that cost the most are worth your money then; it's your world, I'm only living in it. Whereas my preference is to find the things that I feel out preform their cost and I can truthfully say without a doubt before I even try it. MDC will never, repeat never, out perform it's cost.

It's funny how you try only seem to read what you want to read. Take a deep breath, go back a few posts, re-read what I said. I said, "MdC is vastly overpriced", "you will get the same performance for a fraction of the price from Savonnerie du bon Berger", and so on.

But if you took your own approach outlined above, you would be using Arko. Exclusively. Forever.