The Obie Memorial First Tier Soaps and Creams Thread.

[Gibbs]

Now, wouldn't one of the things that determine how well a soap rinses out of a brush and off the face would be the hardness? In the Sandhills of Nebraska, where there is little hardness soaps rinse out of clothe rather easily, but not so say in Imperial or McCook Nebraska, and other places, where the water is pretty hard. I lived in Seattle for a spell and that water was relatively soft compared to others. I would imagine Lakewood would be the same. Now where I live near Glenn Michigan, there is a lot of iron, some sulfur and minerals in the water that you have to be careful in the shower that you don't get bruised from the water. Harness of water has an effect on rinsing out of clothes, and should be the same for shaving brushes.

[Dieseld]

Now where I live near Glenn Michigan, there is a lot of iron, some sulfur and minerals in the water that you have to be careful in the shower that you don't get bruised from the water.

[Obie]

This and that . . .

Gentlemen,

After much consideration, and with all the conflicting thoughts offered by our friends here, I feel I should move Le Pere Lucien soap to the Second Tier. It's a good soap, but not good enough to sit at the same table with, say, Martin de Candre, Klar Seifen or Castle Forbes. I stopped using it a while back for some of the same negative reasons friends have offered here.

The Los Angeles Shaving Company sent me a tub of its Fougrere shave soap with my purchase of the BBS-1 safety razor. The razor is dazzling in looks and glorious as a shaver. The soap has impressed me enough to deserve a Second Tier seat in our lineup. I like the fragrance, which is pleasantly mild. The soap lathers well, is moist, and has good cushion and glide. It's good stuff.

[Phrank]

Have to agree with you Obie - LPL, a soap with enormous potential, had all the right ingredients, but in the end, a T1 soap should embrace being used, blossom into lather and not require 10-15 dates and being plied with vast amounts of liquid enticements to finally put out....

That didn't come out quite the way I meant it......what I mean to say is, it should be a consistent performer and it's clearly not - wonderful soap, and it will sit at the T2 table, by the kitchen doors on the way to the Loo....:-)

[Benz]

I tend to agree with most of your soaps Obie except in my own rotation I'm bumping Esbjerg grapefruit cream down to tier 2 and Tabac is going up to tier 1. I do this on smell alone. I find Tabac's scent intoxicating and right up there with Penhaligon's Blenheim Bouquet. The Esbjerg smells like the chewable vitamin C tablets I was forced to eat as a kid.

[Obie]

Benz,
I love Tabac's scent, too, and have used the soap for years. It's good stuff. I agree with you on some Esbjerg scents. They are a wee bit too much.

[thebigspendur]

Benz,
I love Tabac's scent, too, and have used the soap for years. It's good stuff. I agree with you on some Esbjerg scents. They are a wee bit too much.

A wee bit too much? My Esbjerg is so strong my Husky has to take an allergy pill every time I open it.

[Gibbs]

A wee bit too much? My Esbjerg is so strong my Husky has to take an allergy pill every time I open it.

Hope he don't mark you as his territory. It's so strong my wife has to drive ahead of me 3 car lengths and into the wind... with AC on. I'm driving down the road and my car looks like a Mirage with the fumes coming out. Not for the faint hearted.

[Obie]

A wee bit too much? My Esbjerg is so strong my Husky has to take an allergy pill every time I open it.

Spendur,
I think that's why I stopped using Esbjerg — mostly because of the fragrance. There is something medicinal about the fragrance. The soap is fine with lather, cushion and glide.

[nessmuck]

This and that . . .

Gentlemen,

After much consideration, and with all the conflicting thoughts offered by our friends here, I feel I should move Le Pere Lucien soap to the Second Tier. It's a good soap, but not good enough to sit at the same table with, say, Martin de Candre, Klar Seifen or Castle Forbes. I stopped using it a while back for some of the same negative reasons friends have offered here.

The Los Angeles Shaving Company sent me a tub of its Fougrere shave soap with my purchase of the BBS-1 safety razor. The razor is dazzling in looks and glorious as a shaver. The soap has impressed me enough to deserve a Second Tier seat in our lineup. I like the fragrance, which is pleasantly mild. The soap lathers well, is moist, and has good cushion and glide. It's good stuff.

Obie...tell me more about that BBS-1 razor ? Is it available...and where ? Thanks everyone