The Obie Memorial First Tier Soaps and Creams Thread.

[dimab]

Obie, while you are refreshing your monumental list, may be you'd think of reconsidering Floris placement in it: their soap is currently in the second tier. Sure the scent and the slickness are superb, but the lather just dissipates in about 30 seconds - no matter what. Of the few dozens of soaps I currently have and use, this is the only one I feel it's absolutely impossible to achieve stable lather with. I'm not sure it deserves the second (or any) tier in your list. Of course the list is yours, so feel free to disregard and to erase my comment if you disagree with it.
Also, TAoS soap is currently in both the second and the third tiers - probably an overlook from when you moved it in between.

[JOB15]

Obie, while you are refreshing your monumental list, may be you'd think of reconsidering Floris placement in it: their soap is currently in the second tier. Sure the scent and the slickness are superb, but the lather just dissipates in about 30 seconds - no matter what. Of the few dozens of soaps I currently have and use, this is the only one I feel it's absolutely impossible to achieve stable lather with. I'm not sure it deserves the second (or any) tier in your list. Of course the list is yours, so feel free to disregard and to erase my comment if you disagree with it.
Also, TAoS soap is currently in both the second and the third tiers - probably an overlook from when you moved it in between.

Check out my shave video with Floris.. I get it working well.
Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-ipNiVR9Gg&t=1s

[dimab]

To JOB15: Thanks (great work restoring this beautiful razor BTW), I'll try to bloom it much longer then I usually do. But my point still stands: soap that consistently under-performs unless you bloom it for 35(!) minutes does not belong in the second (or any) tier.

[JOB15]

To JOB15: Thanks (great work restoring this beautiful razor BTW), I'll try to bloom it much longer then I usually do. But my point still stands: soap that consistently under-performs unless you bloom it for 35(!) minutes does not belong in the second (or any) tier.

Yes for that price also with their history and reputation it should work better..
GEO Trumper Eucris = Re defines the word "Dissipate"

[Obie]

Obie, while you are refreshing your monumental list, may be you'd think of reconsidering Floris placement in it: their soap is currently in the second tier. Sure the scent and the slickness are superb, but the lather just dissipates in about 30 seconds - no matter what. Of the few dozens of soaps I currently have and use, this is the only one I feel it's absolutely impossible to achieve stable lather with. I'm not sure it deserves the second (or any) tier in your list. Of course the list is yours, so feel free to disregard and to erase my comment if you disagree with it.
Also, TAoS soap is currently in both the second and the third tiers - probably an overlook from when you moved it in between.

Thanks for your thoughts. I have not used Floris for a while, but from what I recall, it did not lather well. I agree with you. I have moved Floris to the Third Tier. Taylor of Old Bond Street cream is in the First Tier and I don’t see it anywhere else. Taylor is a good cream without being pretentious. I especially like Jermyn Street.

[dimab]

Thanks for your thoughts. I have not used Floris for a while, but from what I recall, it did not lather well. I agree with you. I have moved Floris to the Third Tier. Taylor of Old Bond Street cream is in the First Tier and I don’t see it anywhere else. Taylor is a good cream without being pretentious. I especially like Jermyn Street.

Sorry for the confusion: not Taylor's, but The Art of Shaving.

[Obie]

Sorry for the confusion: not Taylor's, but The Art of Shaving.

I have adjusted The Art of Shaving. What’s interesting, the old Art of Shaving was superb. If I understand, it was made by Valobra. Then the formula changed and the soap became mediocre. The Art of Shaving creams are good, though.
Floris will work if you bloom it and load your brush heavily. It’s an okay soap.

[dimab]

...the old Art of Shaving was superb. If I understand, it was made by Valobra. Then the formula changed and the soap became mediocre.

Yes indeed, the old tallow-based formula was your regular Valobra with different scent. I still have one old sandalwood puck I really like. Their new vegetal base however - don't know who makes it for them - is mediocre at best.

[Obie]

Yes indeed, the old tallow-based formula was your regular Valobra with different scent. I still have one old sandalwood puck I really like. Their new vegetal base however - don't know who makes it for them - is mediocre at best.

A few years back, I had friends at the local The Art of Shaving Store, and I would help them out at the store on a part-time basis. It was fun. So I managed to buy several pucks of the soap before the formula was changed. I also got to know The Art of Shaving products quite well. I still like their Shave creams.

[Obie]

Gentlemen,

I have added a new category to this thread. There have been a number of requests to include this category. The product line noted is scant for starters, but I trust I will add more to the list. Obviously, since I will not be able to try every soap or cream easy on the skin, your suggestions are welcome. The new category is simple: Sensitive.