Thread: New Floris 89 and Elite formulation - Yuk!!!

Gentlemen,

We probably should put the Flores soap on the same level as the Trumper soap — worthless. It makes one wonder if anyone in these companies actually uses this stuff.

However, the Floris 89 cream is sublime, a superb performer. Get the cream, not the soap and you will be happy.

Cheers, Steve

Originally Posted by Obie

Gentlemen,

We probably should put the Flores soap on the same level as the Trumper soap — worthless. It makes one wonder if anyone in these companies actually uses this stuff.

I had the same thoughts.

It's really quite preposterous.

It would be like an motorbike company decides they need to add a car to their product line-up, but no employee ever drives cars, and no employee even takes the new car for a drive.

If they did they'd have noticed that it had no reverse gear, can't drive in a straight line, has iffy brakes and, omg, it falls onto its side when you turn corners.

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Floris 89 soap is a pleasantly scented, excellent product if you’re in the market to purchase a well-packaged soap bowl—the bowl’s finish is first-rate. However, there are far less expensive and equally well-made bowls for well under $55 USD (excluding shipping).

If you’re considering purchasing Floris 89 soap to shave with, save your money and instead invest it in a quality soap or cream that’s worth a damn, as this Floris formulation is not.

I did a side-by-side comparison between Floris 89 and Eufros this morning. While some may argue that comparing a tallow to a vegetal soap isn’t quite fair, in the research I’ve thus done on shaving soaps, it’s commonly asserted that there are no major differences between well-formulated tallow and vegetal products. My practical experience with both has demonstrated that this is largely true.

I bowl lathered with both products, and while I’m usually not a swirl counter, I did keep track this morning. I first lathered the Eufros with about 50 swirls and mixed it into a nice yogurt consistency. Since I hadn’t yet used this Floris formulation, I lathered the Floris with about 125 swirls to compensate for my hard water—I loaded the brush like I hated the soap. I then mixed it also into a nice yogurt consistency like the Eufros. At the start of this trial, both soaps were nearly identical in their consistency and appearance.

I first lathered the right side of my face with the Eufros and then the left side with the Floris. The Eufros went on thick and nice, the Floris went on thin—so I painted more on. The Floris quickly, like in a matter of seconds, dissipated into a very thin, bubbly consistency. I then did a simple WTG pass…at best, the lubrication was mediocre. I then lathered my left side again, even heavier this time, and the results were the same: the lather quickly broke down and the lubrication wasn’t there. At this point, I knew the Floris was a dog.

Please note in the above that at nearly every step, I used the Eufros first: I mixed it first, I lathered with it first, but that I shaved it second. After my two WTG passed with the Floris, I re-lathered my left side with the Eufros and shaved it. I then shaved my right side, which had Eufros on it for a while, and during that entire time, the right side Eufros never broke down or etc. It remained as I first mixed it.

During the time in which I did the 3rd WTG pass on my left side, the 1st WTG on my right side, and then XTG passes on both sides, the Floris had totally broken down into a shrunken bubbly mess while the Eufros remained beautifully rich and thick. I stopped at this point to take side-by-side photos of the two products.

Floris On Left; Eufros On Right


After the photos, I finished my third pass (a modified ATG) with the Eufros and then dinked around with touch ups. At the end of the shave, the Eufros remaining in my bowl was still beautifully thick while the Floris continued its break down. At this point, the Floris looked like soap that has been floating in a sink way too long…thin, anemic, and rather nasty looking.

I pitched the Floris into the trash after finishing my shave routine this morning—it’s so crappy that it’s not even suitable as a shower soap.

I do not consider this Floris formulation a third-tier product, at best, it’s a premium priced basement/trash soap. There are too many other excellent soaps and creams on the market at comparable, and much lower, price points…save your money for those—this Floris soap formulation isn’t worth it.

Just from looking at the photo I would not choose Floris.

Bob

Yep, Bob, the picture really captures the difference between the two soaps.

The avg. price of Eufros premium tallow 125 gm soaps in the list Manuel sent me a few weeks back was 23.50 €; his balms ran about 15 € each, and postage was 12.85 € (for ~2 units). At today's exchange rate, that's about $60 USD for all three.

The Floris 89 100 gm soap and bowl is $55, figure about another $5 for postage.

So for roughly the same price, I received more Eufros product that it is vastly superior in every respect. With the Floris, I wound up purchasing a very expensive soap bowl….

This has made me curious. I have a puck of Floris 89 that I haven't had out in at least 7 yrs. sealed up in an airtight container. Have to get it down and see how it works. Got it shortly after they stopped using tallow.

Originally Posted by Jlander

This has made me curious. I have a puck of Floris 89 that I haven't had out in at least 7 yrs. sealed up in an airtight container. Have to get it down and see how it works. Got it shortly after they stopped using tallow.

Probably is old stock tallow as it takes a while for new formulas to get through the supply chain to dealers shelves. I'd bet it will be excellent.

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

Probably is old stock tallow as it takes a while for new formulas to get through the supply chain to dealers shelves. I'd bet it will be excellent.

Bob

I hope so. I have enough shower soap. Any way this got off my butt to try the Eufros I've been hearing about. Just emailed an order for the Sandalwood and Fougère. He has an interesting Rosa Bourbon listed. A little pricey to try at 34 euro.

Originally Posted by SemperFi

Yep, Bob, the picture really captures the difference between the two soaps.

The avg. price of Eufros premium tallow 125 gm soaps in the list Manuel sent me a few weeks back was 23.50 €; his balms ran about 15 € each, and postage was 12.85 € (for ~2 units). At today's exchange rate, that's about $60 USD for all three.

The Floris 89 100 gm soap and bowl is $55, figure about another $5 for postage.

So for roughly the same price, I received more Eufros product that it is vastly superior in every respect. With the Floris, I wound up purchasing a very expensive soap bowl….

Never been hugely impressed by some of the expensive shave soaps even if they performed well. Being not much of a fragrance guy my bench mark is how well they lather compared to Arko. So far the difference has not been vast enough to justify the extra expense for me to be bothered with the expensive stuff other than to use it up.

Bob