Thread: New Floris 89 and Elite formulation - Yuk!!!

Bought these two soaps couple of months ago - E P I C F A I L!!!

Weak lather, dissolves almost instantly from the face, no cushion, no glide, just have to ask yourself WTF they were thinking when they released this disaster.

At least with some soaps that get the boot, when you throw them, you can hear the thud as they land in the shower...this one, won't lather in the bowl, so why would it lather in the shower, off to the figurative "trash".

Reason for this post as in the 1st Tier Soaps and Creams thread, there was some talk about, "Saponification", letting the soaps get some air, and I've left some tin bowls of Le Pere Lucien out for a few weeks and one of them actually performed slightly better, that would be the Cologne / Fougere....can see how some air time would improve a soap, and as mentioned, might be a reason for the wooden bowls, does allow some air to get into the soaps.

So after leaving the Floris Elite and 89 out in the air for the last 6 weeks, nothing, nada, epic fail....actually kind of pee'd off to have purchased this expensive hard soap and to basically feel completely ripped off.

Like did no-one that worked there try the stuff?

Just finished reading lot of other reviews of this junk on several sites, and that's the verdict - junk.

So if you're thinking about purchasing this once giant of a soap, don't bother with the new stuff, it's expensive garbage, and if you are going to get some - go for the cream, I understand that actually does lather.

Thanks phrank!
I though it was just me. I got their samples in with a bunch of other, actually good soaps.
Couldn't get any lather to speak of, although I did like the smell of the floris 89 as I washed it out of the Scuttle.
Better to have tried the sample first.
I concur though, poor performer.

The new soap formulation is horrible, as are many of the reformulated English soaps. I have vintage (original) No. 89 soap and it's a solid Tier 2 performer with a Tier 1 scent. I only have the new No. 89 cream, which is one of my favorite creams.

Crap, 3 strikes in a row...Andrew, Mike, and Richard your posts don't bode well. I have a new bowl of Floris 89 I purchased a couple months ago but haven't yet used (others were ahead of it in the queue ), but I'll break out it tomorrow morning and test it during my morning shave. Am using Eufros for the main event tomorrow, so will post back on how the Floris worked out and if it even came close to Eufros.

Also, will post an update in a few weeks on giving LPL soaps more time to cure. The ones I'm testing are still losing water weight: I own a balance that's accurate to 100th of a gram, so am weighing the tins weekly; once the water stops evaporating, the soaps should be pretty much fully cured.

I had the same experience with the prior to current formulation of Crabtree & Evelyn hard soap. I raised hell with C&E, demanded a complete refund or replace with their new (corrected) formulation. I sent copies of international posts like these to back me up, to show that it was not just me.

To my amazement supplied new soap and bowl plus a small cream and did not even ask for the old bowl of rubbish back.

When you're paying a lot of money for a soap it MUST perform or get your money back.

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Such a shame because the fragrance is simply wonderful.
Ive read a few reviews that the soap performance is sub par. I have the 89 cream and for me its one of my favourites.
Just a thought. You could always use it with a cream to make a super lather.

Makes you wonder if anyone in a company uses the products they sell or even gives a damn anymore. Remember the old saying "you get what you pay for", not so much these days I suppose. Seems to happen when they reformulate shave soaps and not shave creams for some reason.

Bob

Phrank, I'm so glad you've opened a new thread on this!
I've bought No.89 soap a few months ago, and boy, was I disappointed by it. I really liked the smell - well, that's why I bought it - and it was really slick, but the lather was nothing but bubbly fizzing foam that dissipated in about 10 seconds. I wrote about it on several soap-related threads, but I think it's so big a disappointment it really deserves a thread of its own.
I tried different brushes, distilled water, both bowl and face - to no avail. About a week ago I wrote a complaint directly to 89 Jermyn St. in London. Their response so far was:
"Thank you for your e mail.
I am sorry to hear you are disappointed with your recent purchase.
I have passed your comments to our Head of Product Development and will come back to you once I receive their comments.
Assuring you of our best attention at all times."
I hope to hear in the near future from their development department, and when I do, promise to update you all.

Precisely Bob, with Floris' reputation youd think they might do consumer testing and get feedback.
They might just get a 3rd party to make the soaps...

Originally Posted by markbignosekelly

Precisely Bob, with Floris' reputation youd think they might do consumer testing and get feedback.
They might just get a 3rd party to make the soaps...

I guess it is also possible that Floris is just a brand name owned by some larger corporation and the soaps are 3rd party made. It seems that quite a few old line English hard shave soaps recently suffered a loss of quality. Could it be that those are being made by one and the same third party maker? However this happens it is a real shame and has put me off trying current English shave soap brands.

Bob