Thread: Castle Forbes creams reformulated

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Just one guy's opinion, I love the cedar & sandalwood CF but AFAIC it ain't a cream it is a soap. I generate lather with it like I would with soap. Once whipped up it can't be beat but it ain't a cream I say.

This is quite true. When I did use the CF creams (mainly samples of the C&S, but also the Limes), I worked at it just like a soap. I'm sure had I kept my packs they would have lasted me for ages.

AFAIAA the parabens are preservatives as has been mentioned here, although I am not the chemist around here...

I doubt that these will change the soap/cream very much, but I guess unless someone tries the new paraben-free formulation, we won't know for sure...

i will look in to this and report back :-)

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General chemical structure of a paraben
(a para-hydroxybenzoate)
where R = an alkyl group


Parabens are a class of chemicals widely used as preservatives in the cosmetic and pharmaceutical industries. Parabens are effective preservatives in many types of formulas. These compounds, and their salts, are used primarily for their bactericidal and fungicidal properties. They can be found in shampoos, commercial moisturizers, shaving gels, personal lubricants, topical/parenteral pharmaceuticals, spray tanning solution and toothpaste. They are also used as food additives.
Their efficacy as preservatives, in combination with their low cost, the long history of their use, and the inefficacy of natural alternatives like grapefruit seed extract (GSE),[1] probably explains why parabens are so commonplace. They are becoming increasingly controversial, however, because they have been found in extremely low concentrations in breast cancer tumors (an average of 20 nanograms/g of tissue). [2] Parabens have also displayed the ability to weakly mimic estrogen (a hormone known to play a role in the development of breast cancer).[2] No causal link between parabens and cancer has been established, however.[3]

So if I understand this right, the parabens are used to preserve the creams (in this instance) while also reducing the risk of bacteria and fungus from growing in the cream? I would assume that this would be beneficial due to the high risk of moisture gaining access to the cream and the long life I would assume most of these jars have in our shave dens. Hmmmmm

By the way, I popped a letter off to their spokesperson here in the states about this and got an interesting response today from Mr. French who is the director and I believe lead perfumer at Castle Forbes. If it’s allowed, he stated that I could share the contents of his email here on the boards in an effort to dispel any fears about the changes that they made to the cream and to their packaging.

Moderators please let me know.
Eric

Originally Posted by orretfisker

By the way, I popped a letter off to their spokesperson here in the states about this and got an interesting response today from Mr. French who is the director and I believe lead perfumer at Castle Forbes. If it’s allowed, he stated that I could share the contents of his email here on the boards in an effort to dispel any fears about the changes that they made to the cream and to their packaging.

Moderators please let me know.
Eric

Nice on Eric!
Does that mean they've confirmed the change? I will see if I can get some photos of the new packaging and ingredients list at the shop where I've seen this... although this is usually frowned upon in the UK.

Originally Posted by orretfisker

So if I understand this right, the parabens are used to preserve the creams (in this instance) while also reducing the risk of bacteria and fungus from growing in the cream? I would assume that this would be beneficial due to the high risk of moisture gaining access to the cream and the long life I would assume most of these jars have in our shave dens. Hmmmmm

By the way, I popped a letter off to their spokesperson here in the states about this and got an interesting response today from Mr. French who is the director and I believe lead perfumer at Castle Forbes. If it’s allowed, he stated that I could share the contents of his email here on the boards in an effort to dispel any fears about the changes that they made to the cream and to their packaging.

Moderators please let me know.
Eric

This thread has come to a very tense intermission.

I recently purchased my first tub of CF and I was a bit surprised to find what Jimmy had said, it is definitely not a cream!

I would like to see the reply.

Moderators,

Are you robed and seated at your bench with gavel in hand? I sure hope so as I'm rapidly turning a bright blue from holding my breath.

Originally Posted by orretfisker

By the way, I popped a letter off to their spokesperson here in the states about this and got an interesting response today from Mr. French who is the director and I believe lead perfumer at Castle Forbes. If it’s allowed, he stated that I could share the contents of his email here on the boards in an effort to dispel any fears about the changes that they made to the cream and to their packaging.

Moderators please let me know.
Eric

I will have to go to a higher authority to give a decision on the email. Presenting it to the mod team and will get back with y'all as soon as I have an answer.

Come to think of it, our very Lynn is a strong supporter of the CF creams, so it would be interesting to hear what he knows/has to say about this. Lynn, if you're reading...