Thread: Castle Forbes creams reformulated

I'm really glad that this thread came up and that Eric reached out to CF and they replied as they did. For a long time I've had a psychological block about reformulated soaps that no longer use tallow. I've been convinced that DR Harris and Trumpers were not as good as they used to be. Now, with CF saying they don't use tallow, I know that a vegetable based soap or cream can deliver the goods. AFAIC it doesn't get any better than Castle Forbes.

I am glad that Castle Forbes responded to the inquiry. Theoretically, parabens shouldn't affect anything but the lifespan of the product. I believe Taylor of Old Bond Street went paraben free as well without real issue.

I believe the main concern with parabens has to do with cancer, breast cancer specifically. Also, parabens are believed to weakly mimic estrogen.

As for soap reformulations, DR Harris still has tallow. Trumper soaps no longer have tallow in them, but many believe that the reformulation was a success. Penhaligon's reformulation of its soaps was a complete disaster.

It is always a pleasure to deal with a company as honest and forthright as Castle Forbes has been here. Well done Mr. French! And thanks Eric, appreciated.

Excellent news, to be sure! Castle Forbes gets my vote too, definitely in the top 3 creams of all time on my list.

Originally Posted by altshaver

I am glad that Castle Forbes responded to the inquiry. Theoretically, parabens shouldn't affect anything but the lifespan of the product. I believe Taylor of Old Bond Street went paraben free as well without real issue.

I believe the main concern with parabens has to do with cancer, breast cancer specifically. Also, parabens are believed to weakly mimic estrogen.

As for soap reformulations, DR Harris still has tallow. Trumper soaps no longer have tallow in them, but many believe that the reformulation was a success. Penhaligon's reformulation of its soaps was a complete disaster.

Interesting post, I go to add my thoughts...

Some stores have banned the cosmetics with parabens, not only in UK, also in Denmark, France, an other countries in Europe.
Recently a specialist in cancer in Spain have released a new publication about the chemicals for human use, and she links parabens and cosmetics.
I think that the chemical industry, is doing a preventive action by modifying their formulations to paraben free. I don't know exactly if the studies are all the truth, but every day there are more studies againts some chemichals, I prefer to avoid parabens if possible. Some brads, as colgate-palmolive keep some products with parabens as the regular toothpaste and other without them as the sensitive toothpaste. or the palmolive cream


The soap reformulations are because the cost of tallow, the palm oil is cheaper, and the new formula are better to be sold among the vegan people, at first look.

Originally Posted by du212

The soap reformulations are because the cost of tallow, the palm oil is cheaper, and the new formula are better to be sold among the vegan people, at first look.

Yeah, but vegans don't eat meat, so do they really count?

Seriously, according to wikipedia, "Veganism is a small movement in the countries where it has been measured, ranging from 0.2% in the United States[4][nb 1] and 0.25% in Britain[nb 2][5], to between 0.27% and 1.6% in Sweden.[10]" Think what you want about wikipedia, but at least this entry is attributed to outside sources. Are they really that worried about such a small (yet vocal, I'll admit) group? I think cost might be the bigger driver; vegan appeal is just a side benefit.

Originally Posted by Wortmanb

Yeah, but vegans don't eat meat, so do they really count?

Seriously, according to wikipedia, "Veganism is a small movement in the countries where it has been measured, ranging from 0.2% in the United States[4][nb 1] and 0.25% in Britain[nb 2][5], to between 0.27% and 1.6% in Sweden.[10]" Think what you want about wikipedia, but at least this entry is attributed to outside sources. Are they really that worried about such a small (yet vocal, I'll admit) group? I think cost might be the bigger driver; vegan appeal is just a side benefit.

off course, the vegan friendship is the secondary effect

Originally Posted by du212

off course, the vegan friendship is the secondary effect

Hope I didn't offend -- I really was just trying to be funny.

Originally Posted by Wortmanb

Hope I didn't offend -- I really was just trying to be funny.

Not at all, I have sense of humour, and your comment is plenty of politesse. Even the worst comments in the meaning can and must be listened and accepted with respect when the forms are polite and they come from the respect too. Thank you Sir, the thread shines with a drop of smart sense of humour.