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    Regardless, contact Colleen. She's always willing to help out, even if she is a bit busy. She can help make your first shave soap attempt a good one. I spent about $100 on glycerine and scents trying to create a shaving soap prior to meeting colleen. It is not as easy as it seems. There are some shaving soap recipes on the internet, but I haven't found one as good as her stuff.

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    No problem, I had an L4/L5 lumbar fusion on June 25, 2002 and got the joy of a second surgery to remove the rods on Nov. 11, 2003 - it was SO much fun I've never forgotten the exact dates - and now I'm gettng a cervical fusion at C5/C6/C7 this coming Friday ! Can't really recommend anything for the boredom as all I did was watch TV and eat pain killers like they were PEZ - that last part was actually kinda fun though !

    Back OT: I haven't seen the kits but is it a safe amount of weight to work with without torqueing your back out of alignment? If you give it a shot let us know how it works out. And watch "Fight Club" it's got some great scenes about soap making.
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    Thats amazing, I had mine fused at L5/S1 and they want to take out the ones at l3l4 and l4 l5 but I said hell no when they said they where going to cut me at the groin instead of the back to take all 3 out. Yeah the painkillers where fun until I missed my first dose after about 2 months of taking them. I just got a release to go back to work, full duty no restrictions now I just have to find a job since my previous company will hire me back, If i move to memphis.

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    That sucks you having to have the cervical work done, last time I checked they go through the front to do the work

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    That's an awful lot of surgery to endure. I'm guessing you work for FedEx? Memphis is a nice place to visit, especially in May but ain't NO WAY I'd ever want to live there. Too many political games and corruption for my taste.

    Yes, they're going through the front for my beck surgery. Oddly enough my wife had the same surgery on her C5-C6 in Nov of '03 (and my Mom had an L5-S1 fusion in 2004). The joke around our house is, "Spinal surgery? It takes three to tie and four to win."

    I don't mind them going through the front on my neck but dude ... through the groin?!!!
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    yeah through the groin is what i said, and when they told me the risk i told them they could take the worst one out and we would go from there. I was a kitchen manager for O Charleys for about 4 years when this happened, unloading trucks and hanging over hot windows selling food and stuff. Dont know how it started, but it was hell when it did. I lived im Memphis for about 3 years and definitely do not want to go back, hell i got robbed at gunpoint in the germantown area, which if you dont know is the rich, uppercrust part of memphis. Cant believe the crim in that town.

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    My question would be, what are you guys doing that you need so many fusions? Being in the military, we do are fair share of labor intensive work and I have only ever known one guy who had a fusion. He hurt his back in an emergency landing in a helicopter (seat failed to collapse) then years later he tried to move a china cabinet...

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    I worked in a tungsten carbide machine shop back in the '90s until they closed down and laid everyone off.

    When I blew out my neck I was running 30 kilo ingots on the lathe (1 kilo = 2.2 lbs). At the time I weighed a whoppin' 140lbs. That was April of 1994 and I FINALLY got a doctor to take me seriously and run an MRI this past September. I told my wife I'd hold off the surgery until this month when her work schedule lightened up some and she could take time off without too much hassle (after 12 years I can do 3 months standing on my head).

    I blew out my lower back in the same shop in '96 running a 250 ton hydraulic press. Had trouble with it up until Christmas of 1999 when my wife and I had to drive to WV because my father was in a fatal car wreck. On the way home the L4/L5 disc ruptured - my wife drove the entire way home because I was in the other seat trying not to scream. Finally convinced my doctor to run an MRI in March of 2002. Oh yeah ... he dropped me right after the MRI results came back because I "had a bad attitude."

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    in response to blhowards question, I have no idea. actually had one doctor asked what positions I was performing in the bedroom if you can believe that. my job has always had me standing or running around concrete floors for 10 to 12 hours everyday, plus unloading trucks twice a week. I also did heavy weightlifting all through high school, and got clipped in the back a couple of times while playing football so who knows. Next time I'll stick with the painkillers, because the surgery is only successful with 20% of the patients, and my back still pops and gives me pain depending on what I am doing.

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    Unhappy This is Spinal Tap (and we're way off-topic)

    Discectomy and Laminectomy, L4/L5 and L5/S1 on 9/11/1985 at the Sheba Medical Center, Tel-HaShomer Army Base, Israel. Not service-connected; at least, not to my US Army (Infantry) service. This is what happens from humping 45lb 105mm towed-howitzer rounds, in the Israeli Defense Forces (Artillery).

    Pretty-much asymptomatic for all those years, other than when I'd gain way too much weight, or do something torsional with my torso...

    Then a 20-year-old in his parents' SUV rear-ended me at the end of this past March. Six new herniated discs: C3/C4, C4/C5, C5/C6, C6/C7, and L2/L3, L3/L4. It only hurts when I turn that torso of mine, like to wipe my butt, or back out of a parking space... ya know what I mean? Oh, and after driving my car for ten minutes, my fingers get all numb and tingly. It could be worse: I could be married, or have a girlfriend... or a job.

    The Workers' Compensation orthopedic surgeon wants to do "endoscopic surgery" on my cervical vertebrae. I'm thinking "Not". When they did my lumbar surgery in 1985, they went-in through the back, and it took me a month in-hospital, followed by two more months at home, before I could go back to work.

    I'll take the Personal Injury and Workers' Compensation settlements, and go on to SSDI. The only sharp instrument that will be taken to my body is a straight razor, to my face-and-neck. No Gillette "Fusion", and no spinal fusion, either.

    The kid didn't see me, in my 1968 Dodge Neon, even though it was a sunny morning, and the car's painted Electric Blue. He was only going 75mph on the highway, less than 1/2-mile from a toll plaza. His third accident.

    I hope someone gives him a straight razor... let's see if maybe then he'll learn to pay attention to what he's doing.
    You can have everything, and still not have enough.
    I'd give it all up, for just a little more.

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