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Siguy Identifying a convex bevel... 01-16-2014, 09:10 PM
gssixgun Man I would love to look at... 01-16-2014, 09:35 PM
Siguy 90 Shaves w/out hitting a... 01-16-2014, 10:19 PM
gssixgun Yeah the Maintenance on the... 01-16-2014, 10:23 PM
Steel I would love to hear more... 01-16-2014, 10:44 PM
JSmith1983 I have a 4/8 Boker that I got... 01-16-2014, 11:06 PM
Siguy Yep. That sums it up. 10-20... 01-17-2014, 01:48 AM
Martin103 Personally i did a test... 01-17-2014, 02:10 AM
gssixgun :hmmm: Issue??? I can't... 01-17-2014, 02:57 AM
Steel Sounds like you're on the... 01-17-2014, 03:12 AM
fuzzychops The convexity occurs only... 01-17-2014, 06:03 PM
ScoutHikerDad IMO there's a lot of... 01-19-2014, 11:22 PM
Steel Due to this thread (thanks... 01-20-2014, 03:12 AM
fuzzychops These two images show a cross... 01-21-2014, 03:33 AM
JSmith1983 Seeing that much... 01-21-2014, 07:52 PM
Kefka First of all, COOL PIC!! Do... 01-25-2014, 09:31 PM
fuzzychops These are the images with... 01-25-2014, 11:24 PM
Kefka Ah ok now I do of course see... 01-26-2014, 12:51 PM
fuzzychops You are correct that dilution... 01-26-2014, 03:36 PM
Kefka When I use crox it will be... 01-26-2014, 08:20 PM
Catrentshaving I always aim for the Shave... 01-26-2014, 08:23 PM
Kefka Absolutely :) I have... 01-26-2014, 08:33 PM
rodb I just strop with... 01-26-2014, 08:54 PM
Kefka Yeah I think I will give that... 01-26-2014, 09:01 PM
Steel So many things in this hobby... 01-26-2014, 09:17 PM
Kefka I think you hit the nail on... 01-26-2014, 09:27 PM
Catrentshaving BINGO!! That's exactly it,... 01-26-2014, 09:49 PM
Steel Edges seem to be getting... 01-25-2014, 05:27 AM
rolodave Just for clarification, is... 01-26-2014, 02:09 PM
fuzzychops Yes, although I tend to use... 01-26-2014, 03:39 PM
Ryan82 A disclaimer up front: I... 01-26-2014, 05:29 PM
Steel Those are great and valid... 01-26-2014, 07:22 PM
Catrentshaving The one question that I would... 01-26-2014, 07:37 PM
Steel Can't speak for anyone else... 01-26-2014, 07:52 PM
fuzzychops I feel like I have stepped... 01-26-2014, 08:32 PM
Kefka If there is an argument... 01-26-2014, 08:55 PM
Steel Actually, I guess some people... 01-27-2014, 10:56 PM
Euclid440 For the last couple of years... 02-05-2014, 04:30 AM
sharptonn I have found it best to stay... 02-05-2014, 04:35 AM
Steel +1 to this. You may be able... 02-05-2014, 11:35 PM
notshaveready I feel compelled to add my... 02-08-2014, 12:19 AM
Jimbo It's quite hard to get hht 5... 01-26-2014, 09:02 PM
Kefka LOL nice description! :rofl2:... 01-26-2014, 09:12 PM
Jimbo So how exactly does knowing... 01-26-2014, 09:55 PM
Steel Where do I start. Maybe an... 01-26-2014, 11:04 PM
onimaru55 Here's a thought. Hone a... 01-26-2014, 11:39 PM
rodb The big problem with the... 01-27-2014, 12:29 AM
fuzzychops Sorry I said the H word out... 01-27-2014, 12:43 AM
gssixgun I would disagree with your... 01-27-2014, 02:17 AM
edhewitt As someone who is only... 01-27-2014, 03:28 AM
AFDavis11 I love the thread. Good... 02-05-2014, 11:20 AM
fuzzychops You are absolutely correct,... 02-05-2014, 01:35 PM
Jimbo My point about hht-x is the... 01-26-2014, 11:37 PM
edhewitt Jimbo, do you mean that it is... 01-27-2014, 03:24 AM
Jimbo I suppose it's a bit like... 01-27-2014, 05:53 AM
edhewitt And as the "trial" went on... 01-27-2014, 07:35 AM
Steel "As a general rule, any... 01-27-2014, 10:40 PM
Kefka Yeah of course that is always... 01-28-2014, 01:56 AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catrentshaving View Post
    The one question that I would have if I had to touch up on a pasted strop every shave would be the integrity of the steel in the blade etc.

    I guess if it works for you then have at it...to each their own. But if I had to run one of my Custom blades over a pasted strop each shave then I would wonder what I paid so many of my hard earned dollars for

    Granted, I have 20 some razors in my rotation, but it's been well over 3yrs since I've had to take one of them to a hone or paddle for a touchup. Even then it was only 10 laps on CroOx, otherwise it's just plain linen and leather before each shave
    Can't speak for anyone else but I am doing it as an experiment. Just for the fun of it and so far it has done no damage and seems to actually have gotten smoother and I also strop afterwards. Just my 2¢ of whats workin'
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    I feel like I have stepped into the middle of an argument here.

    Personally, I use 0.25 diamond and 0.1 CBN to add a tiny bit of convexity to razors that I have honed on Shaptons and/or the Gokumyo 20k and I find this improves the keenness and longevity . I find I can touch this up once or twice with the 0.25 diamond before I need to narrow the bevel a bit by dropping to the Shapton 8k/16k. To me, this is consistent with the "less is more" concept since I only use paste on a good edge to make it better, never on a poor edge to try to make it good. Also, I find 0.5 micron diamond too aggressive. FYI, my other razors are Coticule honed, always Unicot, never pasted and touched up on the Coticule.

    That said, I would like to think I have shown that stropping on submicron abrasive only abrades the last few microns of the edge. The key point is that the equilibrium "shape" is produce fairly quickly and after that, very little steel is removed. In other words, less is already alot and more is not much more. My only reason for entering this thread was to offer an explanation for the OP's observations and Glen's earlier experiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzychops View Post
    I feel like I have stepped into the middle of an argument here.

    Personally, I use 0.25 diamond and 0.1 CBN to add a tiny bit of convexity to razors that I have honed on Shaptons and/or the Gokumyo 20k and I find this improves the keenness and longevity . I find I can touch this up once or twice with the 0.25 diamond before I need to narrow the bevel a bit by dropping to the Shapton 8k/16k. To me, this is consistent with the "less is more" concept since I only use paste on a good edge to make it better, never on a poor edge to try to make it good. Also, I find 0.5 micron diamond too aggressive. FYI, my other razors are Coticule honed, always Unicot, never pasted and touched up on the Coticule.

    That said, I would like to think I have shown that stropping on submicron abrasive only abrades the last few microns of the edge. The key point is that the equilibrium "shape" is produce fairly quickly and after that, very little steel is removed. In other words, less is already alot and more is not much more. My only reason for entering this thread was to offer an explanation for the OP's observations and Glen's earlier experiment.
    If there is an argument taking place then I have not noticed

    I find this thread very interesting and I think your pics are astounding and invaluable to the discussion so thank you for sharing them. I have a great interest in the scientific side of everything and that is why I was drawn to this discussion.

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