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04-14-2014, 10:25 PM #11
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Thanked: 2027Fully agree about the pressor for sure,but paddle strops as a rule are pretty rigid and they work fine.
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04-14-2014, 10:50 PM #12
That photo should be in our Wiki.
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04-14-2014, 10:54 PM #13
Great picture and great information.
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04-15-2014, 12:30 AM #14
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04-15-2014, 12:36 AM #15
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04-15-2014, 12:45 AM #16
Actually a lot of the older paddles were 'cushioned' or had cutaways for a bit of give in the surface.
IMHO, a fence paling with leather glued to it is not the ideal design.Last edited by onimaru55; 04-15-2014 at 12:49 AM.
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04-15-2014, 07:46 AM #17
I only have one paddle strop, a modern design, and I've never considered it appropriate to use as a basis for conclusions. It is molded directly to the wood, but somehow still manages to flex against the edge.
I do know that, historically, the hanging strop was invented to accommodate the full hollow razor. Prior to that stropping was thought to be optimized for the wedge blade on the paddle. I would guess a full hollow couldn't take the pressure. I think it would be interesting to see if the hanging strop could maintain an edge for a longer period of time than a paddle. I seem to remember Arthur Boon writing about it. But, he didn't say why the hanging strop was used for full hollow razors.
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04-15-2014, 04:54 PM #18Now, clearly, if you hold a strop rigid tight and use pressure, the slightest mistake, heck even without a mistake, will fold the edge, effectively ruining it. If you hold the strop rigid tight and use no pressure, you'll only strop the bevel, not the edge. There is no need to strop the bevel.
I was thinking about this as I was stropping this morning. I challenge anyone to pull their strop so tight that even just the weight of the razor lying on it does not cause the leather to deflect at all. Trying to do so will likely remove whatever your strop is anchored to before you stop deflection. Simply put, I think it would be better to stress the less pressure aspect than stern warnings about not holding the strop too tightly as too loosely is more likely to cause issues. I started with my strop lying on a table. You just can't get any more rigid than that!The easy road is rarely rewarding.
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04-15-2014, 05:53 PM #19
Gentlemen,
Both Glen's and Alan's thoughts on stropping are profound and indispensable. And I agree with both on their conclusions. Such thoughts sent me searching for what I consider a masterpiece of stropping: the great barber Liam Finnegan stropping. Here is the link. Gentlemen, this is art:
Razor Strop - YouTube
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04-16-2014, 12:18 AM
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I'd guess that design relies on the thickness/softness of the leather for adequate flex ?
Something thin like kangaroo might not be the best choice directly glued to timber.
When you hone you torque the edge into the stone. When you strop your pressure is on the spine.
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