When it comes to the rockwell strop, you need to pressure-cook it in a cooker full of meat tenderizer for 3 hours to make it soft enough to strop with lol. As for the Thuringers, they could be a decent option for Europe and the UK, but they're prohibitive for Canada as they cost 20.somethingEUR to ship here. It's a bit better for the States as they cost 12EUR