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    On another thread a few days ago, I posted pictures of a new work table with a sanding jig clamped to it. After working with the jig, I realized that it contained a basic design error. The backing piece, behind the embedded magnets, was too high. It was about an inch high, and it got in the way of my hands. I couldn't access the razor from the back. So I cut the backing strip way down, leaving it just about 1/8 high. Here's the original jig:

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    Here are a couple of shots of the modified jig.

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    This works a lot better.

    As you can see in the last two photos, I also cut a sheet of thin plexiglass to go over the whole jig surface. The plexiglass is held in place with double-sided tape. That gives a smooth surface to work on, so the razor doesn't snag on the magnets. The magnets (rare earth) are strong enough to hold a razor firmly in place on top of the plexiglass.

    Following someone else's model, I originally used self-adhesive felt on top of the magnets, but I use WD 40 while sanding, and the felt got funky fast. The plexiglass cleans easily. Also, I like being able to see the magnets while positioning the razor.

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    Genius. Gonna. Get me one of those!!! Well make one :-)
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    Years ago I made as similar one from pine, but smaller and glued a Popsicle stick on one side to hold the edge.
    It was still too easy to cut your self.

    So I switched to a 3X12 in piece of 4mm foam. I too use WD40 and the whole strip can be cleaned in the sink with simple green or any spray degreaser. When it gets to funky toss it and cut another strip. A 9X12 in pad of 4mm foam is around a dollar.

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    Pressing down on the blade while hand sanding buries the blade in the foam and you can sand or polish right to the edge without any danger of cutting yourself. It also prevents scratching the blade once polished, use either a clean piece of foam or lay a paper towel over a dirty pad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euclid440 View Post
    Years ago I made as similar one from pine, but smaller and glued a Popsicle stick on one side to hold the edge.
    It was still too easy to cut your self.

    So I switched to a 3X12 in piece of 4mm foam. I too use WD40 and the whole strip can be cleaned in the sink with simple green or any spray degreaser. When it gets to funky toss it and cut another strip. A 9X12 in pad of 4mm foam is around a dollar.
    I did go ahead and order some foam. I'll try it out when it arrives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carrolljc View Post
    I did go ahead and order some foam. I'll try it out when it arrives.
    I'm hoping for another good effect from the foam (besides protecting fingers). When I'm sanding the spine, I hold the razor with the edge directly at 90 degrees on the plexiglass or on the wooden backing strip. A brittle edge can get a chip if the razor wiggles the wrong way. Possibly the foam will offer some cushioning support for the edge.

    Thanks for the tip on the degreaser. I've ordered some of that, too.


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    Speaking of hand sanding razors, I tried using the Dremel attachments identified as abrasive buffs. They look like small synthetic scouring pads.

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    They're rated at 180, 280, and 320 grit. They didn't seem to remove steel as well as hand-sanding does. After working through the sequence, I went back to 220 grit sandpaper and worked back up. Better results.

    Has anyone had good success with these Dremel abrasive buffs? The razor I was using them on had fine pitting, and the buffs were shining the surface but not getting very deep into the pitting. Is there a restoration situation in which they are effective--for example, a razor that just has tarnish but no pitting?

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    Default MY MAKESHIFT SANDING JIG

    I threw this together as a temporary solution when I decided to try my hand at hand sanding:

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    It's just a vacuum-base vise with rubber jaw covers and a couple of magnets. It worked reasonably well with the largish blade I cleaned up, but I don't know how it'll fare with smaller blades. It's main advantage for me is that I don't have to remove the razor's scales. But I could use some stronger magnets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carrolljc View Post
    Speaking of hand sanding razors, I tried using the Dremel attachments identified as abrasive buffs. They look like small synthetic scouring pads.

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    They're rated at 180, 280, and 320 grit. They didn't seem to remove steel as well as hand-sanding does. After working through the sequence, I went back to 220 grit sandpaper and worked back up. Better results.

    Has anyone had good success with these Dremel abrasive buffs? The razor I was using them on had fine pitting, and the buffs were shining the surface but not getting very deep into the pitting. Is there a restoration situation in which they are effective--for example, a razor that just has tarnish but no pitting?

    Joe
    Pits are interesting,have you ever measured the depth of pits?? I have,most as seen on razors are up to .003 deep,try to remove them and you remove alot of steel,do not buy razors with pits if you intend on getting the blade back to what it was,not going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzanda View Post
    I threw this together as a temporary solution when I decided to try my hand at hand sanding. . . .

    It's just a vacuum-base vise with rubber jaw covers and a couple of magnets. It worked reasonably well with the largish blade I cleaned up, but I don't know how it'll fare with smaller blades. It's main advantage for me is that I don't have to remove the razor's scales. But I could use some stronger magnets.
    While I was building a sanding jig, I also attached a vise to a plank that I could clamp to a work table. I had envisioned holding a blade in the vise and working on it with a Dremel. I did try that, but it was tedious to keep clamping and unclamping the blade. I've ended up mainly using the sanding jig instead.

    Here's the vise. It's a nifty little device set on a ball joint that allows 360 degree movement:

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    Here below is the plank clamped to the work table. I like the vise and hope still to find some use for it, though I can't yet envision quite what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    Pits are interesting,have you ever measured the depth of pits?? I have,most as seen on razors are up to .003 deep,try to remove them and you remove alot of steel,do not buy razors with pits if you intend on getting the blade back to what it was,not going to happen.
    Some good razors have some pits. Sometimes, you have to choose to leave some slight pitting rather than go down all the way to take out a pin prick here or there. I did that with this blade. Here are the Before shots:

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    I'll insert below two After shots.

    The first of the After shots shows the etching on the front of the blade. In order not to damage the etching, I chose to leave a little nearly invisible pitting on the toe near the spine:

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    The second After shot shows the back of the blade. If you look closely, just below the pivot hole, you can see a pin-prick pit. There's also a pin-prick pit near the spine just above and in front of the shoulder.

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    It will never be a new blade. But it's an excellent old blade, and I don't mind the few pin-prick pits left over from sanding. I like the idea of a fine old blade that's been in use for many years and that can be brought back to functional, rust-free condition, even if it isn't mint.

    Joe

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