Dion I still want the rubber grip loose on top and just seal the metal so wont be a issue about bonding to rubber.

The small local hardware is closing unfortunately but have to move all stock so hig discounts so once I am finished buying up big may get some of that for future projects. For now araldyte as a basic equivalent should work by the sound of it and I can get it cheap while the wife is letting me replace broken things cheaply. Gotta try get a couple extra bits in anyhow