i have 2 blades, 1 a john barber, and the other an old sheffield. both wedges, or what i would call an overwedge. i will see about taking a couple of pics. on both of them, if i have the spine on the hone, the edge will not even come close to touching. because i am new at honing, i do not feel comforatable trying to hold an angle by hand. after 3 layers of electrical tape, i was finally able to get contact at both points and somewhat of an edge. i still need to work on them, but they are beasts. even with the old W&B i have, there is enough of a hollow to work with. but not on these 2.

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