Thread: New Idea??? Experimentation....

Today I added the Turtle wax liquid compound.
I have two blades with scales in corncob.
I like the idea of CRO...
I'll have to get some.

Hello Gents. The walnut finally arrived today. What I did was add the
English walnut to the tumbler, then mixed together 4 tablespoons of blue
magic metal polish with 3 tablespoons of powdered red rouge.
Added the mixture to the tumbler then waited for a couple hours and added
a C-Mon Blackie & a Keen Kutter. "you'll notice how the walnut darkened
after adding the mixture".

I am a bit worried about the threaded post in the middle of the tumbler.
I was thinking of wrapping it in leather then duct taping over the leather.

Will have to check on it in a couple of hours first and see if the blades
are getting dinged up.
If the blades start getting damaged I will dump the walnut and wrap the post.
Then re-add the walnut.

I'm going to let this run for 72 hours and then see where I am at as far as
progress.

I have this tumbler on my laundry room floor which is cement and a thin
carpet on the top. I can't hear it with the laundry door shut which is nice.

I've also ordered a jar of green rouge powder to experiment with the walnut.
I'll post some pictures of the 2 blades after the 72 hours of tumbling.

Also both blades were hand sanded beforehand with 180 up to 400 grit.
That took about 2 hours per blade as they were not too rough and don't
have pitting.

Some of the blades I'll be adding will have a small amount
of pitting but I'm not expecting the tumbler to get rid of any pitting.

Sidenote: The is just a repeat test of the walnut media phase
of gssixguns experiment and I take no credit. I switched it a bit by
adding metal polish to the walnut and not using corncob as a second step.
If you read through the first few pages of this thread
,you'll see his test. gssixguns also has a phase 2 using corncob with metal polish.

I posted this for the newer folks who just joined & might just skip to the last page of this thread and not really know whats happening with this experiment.

Credit goes to gssixguns & ByronTodd who brought this great idea to our attention. Lets keep experimenting with different polishes and powders and post your pictures so we can see the results & also explain how you did it.

Cheers,

Hey, Arora, does the threaded post start at the bottom of the tub? On my RCBS, the tub kind of cones up out of the middle and the post comes out of that. This is where I fill my media up to. This way there is nothing but plastic tub surrounding the media and my razor. You shouldn't need to go any higher with your media if this is the same kind of setup.
Also, for those looking for chromium oxide, www.handamerican.com has liquid chromium for leather strops. This works great with the corn cob! You can also buy the dry powder from him and mix it with Gojo, or something like that.
I, too, have had great past success with Midway USA, but wanted to let you know about my Cabelas experience as well. I ordered a tub of Lyman walnut and corn cob. I received two tubs of walnut instead. When I called to complain, the service person said the corn cob was being sent free of charge, and for me to keep the extra walnut because of the hassle. It sounds like these faceless corporations are finally getting it!

Some have the thread that starts 2/3rd of the way up and some like me, have the threaded bolt that starts at the bottom of the bowl. After I started restoration on a knife, I went ahead and used electrical tape to completely cover up the exposed threads.

My thinking is that the little electrical tape that was used is a small price to pay for the insurance that the bolt *won't* screw up a blade.

Originally Posted by ByronTodd

Some have the thread that starts 2/3rd of the way up and some like me, have the threaded bolt that starts at the bottom of the bowl. After I started restoration on a knife, I went ahead and used electrical tape to completely cover up the exposed threads.

My thinking is that the little electrical tape that was used is a small price to pay for the insurance that the bolt *won't* screw up a blade.

+1....I agree with that thinking concerning the threaded post.

Originally Posted by yul b. nekst

Hey, Arora, does the threaded post start at the bottom of the tub? On my RCBS, the tub kind of cones up out of the middle and the post comes out of that. This is where I fill my media up to. This way there is nothing but plastic tub surrounding the media and my razor. You shouldn't need to go any higher with your media if this is the same kind of setup.
Also, for those looking for chromium oxide, www.handamerican.com has liquid chromium for leather strops. This works great with the corn cob! You can also buy the dry powder from him and mix it with Gojo, or something like that.
I, too, have had great past success with Midway USA, but wanted to let you know about my Cabelas experience as well. I ordered a tub of Lyman walnut and corn cob. I received two tubs of walnut instead. When I called to complain, the service person said the corn cob was being sent free of charge, and for me to keep the extra walnut because of the hassle. It sounds like these faceless corporations are finally getting it!

I think so. I'll be emptying out the tub tomorrow to check it.

Here is a quick update on the progress of the metal polish & red rouge mix.
These two blades have been in the tumbler about 55 hours now.

The results so far are very good with both blades having a mirror finish
and 95% of the scratch marks from the hand sanding have disappeared.
So I'll leave them going for another 24 hours and see if those last fine marks
will be removed. If not I am more than happy with the results thus far.

After the blades are removed I will definitely cover the post
which looks to be threaded from top to bottom for some odd reason.

Sorry about the photo, I took it in natural light without a flash as i was trying
to get better detail but that just wasn't happening today.

Using Corn cob media to start with instead of the walnut is a bad idea. Didn't do much at all for 72 hours in the tub.

I loaded the cob with Liquid polish compound.

I did this cause I didn't have the walnut when I got the Cabelas tumbler.
I figured I was gonna load the cab might as well have a blade in. I had two razors in with scales on.
Also more info into the pot of experimentation here.

I think I'll look to load the walnut with CRO.

Gary, looks like the
WALNUT
- 4 tablespoons of blue magic metal polish with 3 tablespoons of powdered red rouge.


- Lyman Tuff Nut Walnut media, and Lyman green (Chromium Oxide?)treated Corn Cob media. I've done two razors at one time with no problem. By using nothing less than 400 grit for minor rust and stain removal, I got a mirror finish on two razors.

- a few ounces of metal polish in walnut

- think of the media this way : Walnut 4K and Corn Cob 8K. One starts the polish and the other mirrors it up.

- Handamerica liquid CRO

- Don't bother trying black beauty as it breaks apart too quickly and it also cuts the hell of your hands,

- Turtle Wax Liquid Rubbing Compound and added a little over half of it to my untreated walnut media.

- walnut loaded with CrO

- gssixgun's process..one of them anyway: Scrape away excess rust off blade, using a small corn razor... Start with 220 grit sandpaper and rough off the worst of the stains and rust, move to 320 grit and continue as normal, cleaning up the blade, then moving to 400 and finaly leaving a smooth clean finish ( this takes 1/2 to 1 hour)
Sunday morning the blade goes in the Treated Walnut tumbler....
Wed night after work, blade comes out of the walnut and I switch it to the Corn Cob...
Sunday morning the blade is finished and I start again...

CORN COB
- for those looking for chromium oxide, www.handamerican.com has liquid chromium for leather strops. This works great with the corn cob! You can also buy the dry powder from him and mix it with Gojo, or something like that



works quite well.
I think I'll go through this thread and post here all the different mixes folk have used in walnut and cob.
ALSO: I'll not be crediting the info I paste into here. I hope that's OK.
I give you ALL high Kudos.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

I have to agree with Jim aka Syslight here, I finally tried 2 blades at once all last week and that worked just fine.... NO damage to either blade.
I would not recommend too many more in there depending on the size of the tumbler....

One of the guys I work with came up with an idea of how to do a vintage razor in the scales... I will try this tomorrow and see how this might work out... I don't even want to tell you how this might work, until I put a little more experimentation and thought into it but I will keep you updated on the progress or failure!!!!...

Glen, anything happening here?