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02-12-2009, 10:20 PM #8
One thing that is important to keep in mind is that given the technical level and resistance to change of the SRP population any solution that is only good in immediate or very near term is a bad one.
Even if they may not admit it, the truth is that most of the people in the restoration chat have financial interest that the community grows, or they'll be stuck with their beautiful restorations and have to scale down how many they make because there is not enough people to pay money for them.
SRP continues to grow and we should not only facilitate this, but also anticipate it and be prepared to handle it. Whoever has been in the Sunday chat recently would know that it has gone well beyond the size where much useful things can be accomplished. Most of it is people saying 'hi' to each other. Of course a newbie can still get help, but it is a bit intimidating to ask. Just think about it - when was the last time you enjoyed a party with a single conversation involving 30 people? The natural thing that happens is that it breaks to several smaller conversations with 2-5 people each.
The exact same thing happens in online chat.
Indeed, it serves no purpose to just redirect everybody from one room to another. Transitional periods when things are changing are one thing, but not long term.
Actually reading the back logs I've seen more than once a person failing to grab the attention because everybody else is more interested talking about the kangaroo strop than explaining to a newbie the differences between a brand new dovo razor and one in the classifieds.
That is true, but it's not what happens in practice. It would be nice if that were the case, but it happened even in the flash chat to the point that some people started to explicitly express their distaste from others socializing during 'resto hour'.
Yes the flash chat worked for few people better than the irc java client, but that's a problem with their computers. I use chatzilla and it works really well. The flash is not an option at this point and this would probably force people, including Doc and Glen to use one of the better clients, or perhaps the one Robin mentioned will be much better than the current java one.
And I haven't had the motivation to figure out the sound in chatzilla, so it's silent for the most part, while I'd prefer it if it had an easy way to turn sound alerts on an off and I knew it.
Now this is a problem of Dan being logged on in #srp without paying attention to it. It will be the same result if he'd just log on into the flash client, and go make a set of scales. For example this week nobody could talk to you in the restoration channel, because you decided not to join it. This was a the right thing to do if you're not planning to be participating there.
Originally Posted by Philadelph
Finally I don' t know if I mentioned this before, but would you prefer to have all threads in the forum be a single section without any organization. After all one can argue that whatever the current topic of interest is will stay on top.
It really works for a very small forum where there are 10 threads altogether and it'll be silly to make a section for each one, but for the size of SRP it would be a nightmare.