Thread: Am i cheating?

Adjustable/removable pins make it possible to more reliably do a good job of fitting the scales to the blade. With peened pins, you don't know what the blade is going to do until you've peened it in place and it's too late to make any adjustments. When I was using pins I would routinely pin a razor three or four times before everything worked properly. The unpinning process involves either a drill or files, both of which can destroy your scales in a heartbeat. Add in the possibility of bending the pin while peening, and you've got a major pain in the butt situation on your hands.

Josh

They've peened for centuries and it's still the most aesthetically for a razor, if done properly. It has worked for centuries so I don't see a need to change.

It's also easier to rectify small issues with razors not fully centering when peening.

That's one of the main negatives when using a pivot barrel with the 2 torx screws. If the blade is not straight you have some problems. So for the new custom razor makers it's easier to use those as they can easily pre drill the pivot hole to 1/8" and in general those new razors are straight to start with.

Some also use a long torx screw with a flat hex nut to tighten it all. Aesthetically not as beautiful but easy to apply.

The micro fasteners are a bit bulky at the head and nut but when I do use them when requested I sand them down a bit and use the blue loctite.

All have their pros and cons.

I think if you like the look of them and they give the result you like, then go for it..! If you're happy with them, then thats all that matters.

I like microfasteners on new custom razors, but the jury's
out on restores. A local restorer here who keeps me busy
with honing has some neat little mini-bolts (brass) with
brass washers that look just like peens, so there's another
option.

- Scott

It's a matter of taste. I prefer the traditional peened pins. Each to his own.

Originally Posted by JoshEarl

... With peened pins, you don't know what the blade is going to do until you've peened it in place and it's too late to make any adjustments. When I was using pins I would routinely pin a razor three or four times before everything worked properly...

I'm with Josh - I usually need a few shots at the wedge before the blade is centering perfectly, that's why I use the adjustable pins when I'm making scales. I can throw it together and get a sense of what it'll look like, then make adjustments as necessary without the hassle of peening a razor 3 or 4 times before getting it right.

I generally prefer things done as they've always been done... in a more traditional manner.
I've been changing my tune of late, after seeing Torx screws instead of traditional pins in the actions of the fantastic shotguns of Ivo Fabbri.. some of the finest, and most expensive in the world...

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Ditto, some razors take a few times to get it all right.

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

My friend you are kinda hehehe.
you just lazy don't wanna do the work.
they get loose later on try avoid it.
gl

So will peened pins.

Go with what you like. I like the screw pivots for my customs because they allow me or the customer to take the razor apart to clean it. But I've used peened pins, as well. Either work, so just do what you feel comfortable with. My only thing is when I do a restoration, I generally try to use whatever the razor came with originally, so most of the time on a resto, it's peened pins.

To me, the fact that you asked the questions leads me to think that you would rather have used peened brass rods. I Started with microfastenters, thinking peening would be too much work. It most definitely is not. it only takes a few minutes and , to my eye, looks right. I practiced on a scrap of wood first. Only had to practice once. Brass rod is very maleable and easy to work with.

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