Thread: Joseph Allen & Sons, smiling wedge

That didn't work, try this:
http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...ar-honing.html

I found it...here's THE MAN: http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...ng-videos.html

Thanks for the videos.

Yes I have used this circular honing method with my other training knife Narva. Also when I was a kid I honed my pocketknife like that ;-)

I have not done it with a smiling wedge blade. I have to try it. Hey, it is like honing a pocketknife, it has also a curved blade. Do it like a normal 45 degree tilted stroke, but just add that circuling effect to it.

I have to start it very carefylly. Only few rounds per stroke, as you wrote. I do not want a serious uneven bevel to it like I have on my old pocketknife...

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On the end of the last video was a stropping demonstration. It looked so easy and nice. I looked it like mesmerized ;-)
On the future I have to look those srp videos more. There can find good hints and things.

This is why I wanted you to see the video's. Reading is one thing, but seeing is another. I know that I may not get the full "picture" if I am reading it, but to see something is like "oh yea..."

I'm just glad you got to see them & that they helped. Have you purchased Lynn's video that is on cd? It has much, much good information.
Scott

Yes, I have purchased Lynn´s video. It is great information packet.

Last weekend I tried circular honing method. It is quite powerful method and you have to be carefull when honing like that. When comparing a regular rolling stroke and a circular rolling honing, the circular method cuts very fast. On the surface of the stone are suddenly a lot of removed steel particles. And those pits what are on the bevel area, were "moving" very fast to the edge. When using a regular rolling strokes, it is so slow (and safe method). On the stone you can hardly see any removed steel particles.

Do not stay long on a one spot. When honing a front side of the blade, use counterclock wise ovals. And vice versa on the back side of the blade. And take a look very often the honing result on the bevel, or you can have a uneven bevel.

I must try to keep on my mind: go slow and use quality consentrated strokes. This is what Lynn was emphasizing on the video.

Hope I have time to continue this case on tomorrow.

Your observations are correct, you can remove a lot of material quickly with the oval/circles, thus you can mess up rather quickly. From what I understand, Lynn hones quite a few razors, so the quicker he can set the bevel & move one to the next stone, the better. All in all, it's just another way we can get our razors good and sharp. Circles/ovals are great for a razor that is extremely dull (by razor standards) & then the "X's" are great for touching up a bevel and restoring a razor that is starting to pull a little...errrrr...that's what I do anyway. That's the great thing about our "sport", as long as you get there, the journey can be quite different for each and every one of us.
Scott

Originally Posted by shooter74743

That's the great thing about our "sport", as long as you get there, the journey can be quite different for each and every one of us.
Scott

+1.
I couldn't have said it better!

Here we go again.
Last weekend I had a grrrreat time with this case. Now I am quite sure (again ;-) the 1k stage is set. There should be a true bevel...

I had to go once back to the 1k. I performed about 30 strokes with the 5k, then I saw with the loupe there was a minimum area where the bevel was not set. So I took it back to the 1k and performed only few strokes and I finished this stage with extra careful strokes. As I said, there should be now a true bevel. The bevel looks different than earlier. It has only one shiny area when I turn it a little and look how the light are reflecting on the bevel. My arms are shaved well..

I am currently now in 5k stage. There are still work on this stage, but I can now see this stage is much faster than 1k was. Now I have performed about 40-50 strokes and I can already see the progress. Now I understand the idea because I have seen it my self. As you have been written earlier, "you have to remove previous hone marks before going to higher grits". So I have to remove 1k marks, then I can go to the 8k.

I have gone slow and used loupe a lot, because I do not want to screw up it now. I have good feelings about this.

Your patience and persistance are going to get you there, I have no doubt. You are doing it all right, don't get in a hurry and you will have it...

Originally Posted by Sailor

In the end you suddenly hear tadaa and you have a sharp razor in your hands. Strop and shave.

Today I heard a quiet tadaa.

Testshave was quite ok, even I had two days beard what means it is very hard beard. Therefore I do not usually shave after two days. And usually I shave after three or four days (because so far I have not had a sharp knife). Less shave less pain. I hope that I will never have to use a dull blade.

Yes, it is usable now. But it is hard to say final judgement, because I have not used a wedge earlier. There are difference in the feel. First I have to use it couple of times, then I am wiser.

Big thank for helping