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Thread: Surgically Removing Rust/Spots
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09-07-2010, 03:49 PM #1
Surgically Removing Rust/Spots
So I have been thinking about the threads I have read lately (including my own) where we want to remove rust or spots in a very minimally invasive way. We would like to protect our etching and gold wash and get the best result possible.
We talk a lot about the products to use or not use, like MAAS, toothpaste, ammonia, and also things like using a q-tip to reduce the area being affected.
It seems to me that what we need is a way to have a tiny tipped power tool do this, but the problem is one of surface area and control. I know there are cone shaped hard felt wheels for a Dremel, but that is still a large area.
So here is a list of things I want to try to get very small areas.
1. Draftsman's electric eraser - with and without some kind of compound on the eraser.
2. A q-tip chucked into my dremel - with and without some kind of compound on the cotton.
3. Just the paper shaft of a q-tip chucked into my dremel - with and without some kind of compound. Use the end like a very small buffing wheel.
4. A bamboo skewer chucked into my dremel - with and without some kind of compound. The idea here is that the bamboo end grain is quite tough but porous and I thought it might eat away rust in a very tiny location as well as hold some buffing compound.
Anybody tried these already or have any other ideas?
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09-07-2010, 04:11 PM #2
I suppose I don't care enough about the issue of rust to go beyond Maas on a q-tip or a paper towel but Randydance suggested to me that the gizmo used by professional fingernail polishers would be good. Lower RPM than a dremel and less aggressive.
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09-07-2010, 04:17 PM #3
Although I like your incentives and ideas I would think twice before chucking anything in your dremel that's not originally meant for it. That's just looking for trouble if you ask me and can be extremely dangerous if done by a person with no experience at all. We truly like to keep safety our first priority.
Gold wash is a burden when it comes to restoring or cleaning up a blade. It's either keep, lose or work around it with whatever safe means.
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09-07-2010, 04:29 PM #4
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09-07-2010, 06:23 PM #5
Abrasives on a small stick sound like a good start to me. Beauty supply house carry orange type sticks that come with abrasives on their ends. Bamboo sounds like it would work well, that is a good idea. I would do the work by hand and not use a dremel though.
One of the little airbrush beadblasters with some good masking would most likely work very well.
Charlie
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09-07-2010, 07:03 PM #6
Hey, I just spotted a air dental cleaner.
It functions like a micro sandblaster, but it uses water/powder mix. They can do anything from punching out cavities and enamel to gently removing stains - and the pattern is tiny.
I am goin to do some investigating. Might be the ticket.
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09-07-2010, 09:51 PM #7
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Thanked: 480I have actually done the "stick" method.
Using a set of magnifying goggles so that my wretched eyes can keep a close view of what I am doing, I dip the end in whichever paste seems right.
if its a more rusty, the white car polishing compound stuff, if its just a water stain or the like, a bit of mothers mag polish.
I used the wooden BBQ sticks, so I can cut the pointy end down to what ever is the right diameter for the job at hand. Just twirling them between the fingers works, just takes time.
And while I will agree with Max that its not safe (especially for the less experienced) to put non-bits in a dremmel, I have done that as well, with the vary speed set to its lowest setting.
You MUST use a short length, push straight down, or a very slight angle, or the wood will flex and break.
I found with the dremmel, I didnt need any compound at all, as the wood fiber was enough to clean most dirt and loose rust on its own.
Again, being safe is the best way to go.
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09-08-2010, 12:09 PM #8
More research done.
This is an Air Dental Polisher. Dentists use it to remove stains, plaque and also cavities or to clean up adhesive. It depends on the pressure and powder used.
This is $79.00 from Amazon. It normally runs off of the existing air/water supply in a dentists office, so I would have to adapt this to my air compressor and a water pump.
You can see the very fine pin point tip on this. It uses sodium bicarbonate as a blasting powder, but I have seen a very fine micron aluminum oxide as well.
The air propels the blasting powder like a micro sand blaster. The water jet serves the purpose of containing the powder in a concentrated fog-like concentration.
Two regulators, hose, air and water supply are needed. I am still researching what is available and how to adapt it.
I really do understand that is would be much easier to just polish the whole blade on buffing wheels, but hey, if I wanted easy, I would not have gotten into this!Last edited by Alembic; 09-08-2010 at 12:10 PM. Reason: Sp
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09-08-2010, 12:53 PM #9
That looks like a very interesting idea David! I'm very keen to hear how you get on with this, it could be a really good way of cleaning up the detailing on razors.
Thanks for exploring the option!
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09-08-2010, 01:59 PM #10
Aluminum foil will rub off light rust and stains with almost no effect on the surrounding finish. Not a surgical solution but a very mild one.
LG Roy