Thread: i hope you don't mind my laziness...

if you don't want to help me, that's your prerogative, but why go through the trouble to post just to provoke me? what the hell?

It's all attitude, sport. I'm not trying to provoke you. Only trying to point out that some of us appreciate seeing a little effort on the questioner's part. You don't seem to be "asking" for help, you are "expecting" it without having to even let your fingers do a little bit of the walking.

You show up and admittedly say you are too lazy to look for your own answers. What? Your time is more valuable than everyone else's? You can't be bothered by menial tasks? But you expect us to search it out for you or author an hour's response because you don't feel like looking for the answer yourself? Where is the respect for everyone here in that?

If you had said you were having a tough time navigating the site, or spent an hour searching and couldn't find your answers, you'd get more answers than you would ever need from everyone. You didn't even ask to be directed to the answer or how to find it. Seems to me that you wanted it personalized with a bow on it.

Sorry if I don't like the attitude... I'll try to be more understanding in the future.

Cyrano,

It's not that your question is stupid; many of us have asked the same one. It's that straight razor use and restoration carries with it a certain sense of self-reliance and sufficiency that is ill-served by laziness and entitlement.

There is a tool you'll need for your restoration, given what you've said so far: a 16" steel turf gouger.

Continued replies in the same vein aren't going to help your case. However wrongly you feel Bill has treated you, you won't find many people who agree. You'll also find, if you pause to remember all that reading you did, that he's written an awful lot to help out the rest of us. Perhaps a modicum of respect would get you a better result.

While this is not a forum about computers, you might find the advice in this document helpful. Generally, people like to see that you've made some reasonable effort to help yourself before they're willing to assist.

Good luck with it.

bunny time yet?

Skunx! You thief!!

It's pretty easy to tee off and blast the new guy, and as the new guy it's pretty easy to get upset because you don't know why you got blasted.

Here's a quick flash movie that introduces some common forum etiquette: (strictly for laughs)
http://gprime.net/flash.php/postingandyou

lol, well, it was funny.....

-micah

i asked a question i could not answer after a half-hour of searching.

piper, you have no right to accuse me of laziness and entitlement, and i don't get your joke about the shovel.

when my initial question was answered in one line, gary asked me if i knew how to re-pin. i thought he was offering to help, so i continued to ask questions.

i'm more than a little surprised that no one found ulreebird's sarcasm and jibes out of line, but, if that's the way it is, so be it; i've paid my dues before. i spent ten years fighting for a position in the first peak at my home break, and many of the guys out there deserved every bit of respect they demanded. but even so, i've made waves (no pun intended) and enemies on several occasions by standing up for a new arrival if they were being treated unfairly. i realize that older, more established members of the board deserve more deference because they know more about the subject and have contributed more, but that doesn't give anyone the right to be discourteous, and i felt some of the posts on this thread were made specifically to provoke. it's been my experience that the people who deserve most respect are the least likely to be malicious, and so i'm glad to find that i was wrong, otherwise i would have been disillusioned about the great group of people here.

i could've handled the situation better, or taken my own advice to urleebird and just let it be if i didn't like it. my response was brash and unpleasant, and i posted it without giving myself time to cool down.

i would like to repeart that i did spend time searching and trying to answer the question myself, but i should have said so instead of making a joke that left too much room for misinterpretation.

i hope everyone involved will please accept my apology.

My apologies for being a smart ass. Don't believe I ever told you I wanted you to take a hike, though. Just wanted you to do a little of the work yourself.

Randy's answer is the short version and it's correct. If that's all you need, then ok. There's more to it. You have to be careful. If you do not have the entire mushroom removed from the end of the pin when you try to tap it out, the scales will splinter and may leave a crack at the pivot. No drill press?

• There are rotary tools... use a round 3/32 ball bit to remove the end of the pin.
• Flush cutters from a hobby store... they are used to cut parts of of the trees. They can scar the scales a bit, but can be sanded out.
• You can use a drift punch to lightly tap the pin part of the way through then twist and pull with pliars from the other side

Your questions are simple... but it doesn't mean the answers are as this is only the tip of the iceburg.

Apology accepted.

Re-pinning. You will need 1/16" brass rod and #0 brass washers. www.microfasteners.com for the washers.

I would suggest trying out on a thin piece of wood or something first.

Drill 1/16" hole. insert rod and cut to length leaving approx 0.5mm each side. Fit washers and then making sure the underside one doesn't fall off gently peen with a small ball-peen hammer. If you don't know what one of these are it has a small rounded ball shaped head on one side.
Tap gently, turn over, tap gently. This will eventually make a rivet. When I say tap gently, if you hgit yoiur thumb and it hurts, it's too hard.

When you are confident try it on your razor.

I hope this helps.

Gary

also wanted to apologize for editing the messages so many times. i'll leave it the way it is. for those of you who read the earlier posts i made this evening that were a bit more inflammatory, please disregard them. i have to learn to think a little before i go throwing responses up. thanks again to everyone in this thread, and i mean everyone, for ALL posts. i can't underestimate the amount of help i've gotten here.

Type of file...I really don't know the technical description but as a comparison you could glue some 150-220 grit sandpaper to a stick and use that as a file. As has been pointed out the real problem is the mushroom and if your using a rotary tool or drill press than heat is also the enemy because it will melt and enlarge the hole in the scale unless your careful. Usually I only remove the pins if I do not care about the scales. If I want to preserve the scales then I just clean them in place. Otherwise its just a lot of work to remove the scales without damaging them.

Hope this helps,

Originally Posted by cyrano138

you'll probably take away my home depot discount card for this but, what type of file (please be really specific) should i use? in fact, any more detail about the process would be great. otherwise, i think i can figure it out from there. thanks for all the help! seriously, you guys are awesome.