Thread: Life on The Edge, What Is The Same, What Is Different

Tom (jende industries) recommended Leonard Lee's book very highly for an overview of sharpening theory and practice. Many 5 star reviews for it on Amazon. I have intended to pick up a copy but haven't gotten around to it yet. Thanks for the topic. It should be interesting to follow.

You guys tell me how this one works out.......

In the mean time, I gots lots a razors to hone........

Anybody mention any of the resin bonding going on???? I like the micro stabilization of some of the particles being used in the hones out there these days, although all the way up to the ol' Arkansas Translucents that have been around a while and all the other magnificent naturals out there. How can you really get consensus on this one.

Should be fun

Thanks,

Lynn

Originally Posted by Lynn

You guys tell me how this one works out.......

How can you really get consensus on this one.

Should be fun

Thanks,

Lynn

Lynn,
I don't think it will but that is the edge. I am a non concensus scientist that really irritates many of my collegues because on cutting edge issues I don't jump up and down and hop on the wagon with them. If I am doing that here on this forum i.e. becoming irritating, let me know and I will put myself up for rotation to be used later on. I have a feeling is that there are others here that are in line with me and you can correct me if I am wrong. Empirical evidence of the members SRP shaving with an antiquated Straights and DEs have resisted all of those Mach 3, Norelco's latest are not prone to be Sheeple. Just a hunch.
Mike

Originally Posted by Kingfish

Lynn,
I don't think it will but that is the edge. I am a non concensus scientist that really irritates many of my collegues because on cutting edge issues I don't jump up and down and hop on the wagon with them. If I am doing that here on this forum i.e. becoming irritating, let me know and I will put myself up for rotation to be used later on. I have a feeling is that there are others here that are in line with me and you can correct me if I am wrong. Empirical evidence of the members SRP shaving with an antiquated Straights and DEs have resisted all of those Mach 3, Norelco's latest are not prone to be Sheeple. Just a hunch.
Mike

Interesting on the part of the quote you left out. In any case, I don't understand, but am looking forward to all the empirical evidence you can find along with as much scientific data as there may be or that can be developed. I am sure it will all make sense to a lot of people. Please include all the theory, conjecture, hypotheses and dissertations relevant for public interest. We have some very scientific minds in here and as previously indicated, this one should be fun.

Thanks,

Lynn

Originally Posted by Lynn

Interesting on the part of the quote you left out. In any case, I don't understand, but am looking forward to all the empirical evidence you can find along with as much scientific data as there may be or that can be developed. I am sure it will all make sense to a lot of people. Please include all the theory, conjecture, hypotheses and dissertations relevant for public interest. We have some very scientific minds in here and as previously indicated, this one should be fun.

Thanks,

Lynn

Yes Lynn, this forum in particular has the Scientific Method on display. They are the "sharpest" group willing to spend the time in the name of promoting what "draws" us here like a full hollow on a piece of fine leather. (I think now I have caught something as my speech patterns have changed) This is the kind of group that has learned probably long ago, if your theory has lot's of pits there not going to pay it lip service and help you put an edge on it. What to H&*&^ is going on. Is this normal?

I can't speak for anyone but myself and I don't understand much of the theory you are posting about.

Sort of like when I was an ironworker. In apprentice school we learned what a cantilever was and some of the theory behind shear versus compression but in the end it was climb that column, stick a spud wrench in the hole and a bolt. Cut it loose and move on to the next point.

So I try to follow all of the scientific stuff as far as I can with my amount of education but thankfully so far I haven't needed to understand it to hone razors and get them shave ready. I'm willing to learn though so keep at it. The puns are cool too.

if you have problem with this post Jimmy i am in deep trouble . Sorry tried just cannot get concept of it.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

I can't speak for anyone but myself and I don't understand much of the theory you are posting about.

Sort of like when I was an ironworker. In apprentice school we learned what a cantilever was and some of the theory behind shear versus compression but in the end it was climb that column, stick a spud wrench in the hole and a bolt. Cut it loose and move on to the next point.

So I try to follow all of the scientific stuff as far as I can with my amount of education but thankfully so far I haven't needed to understand it to hone razors and get them shave ready. I'm willing to learn though so keep at it. The puns are cool too.

Jimmy,

Phil, an old friend, also was an ironworker. I asked him once how far he could move a mis-aligned hole. He said that with his sleever and a three pound hammer, he could get about half a diameter. I was impressed.

And now back to shaving , or honing , whatever ...

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

I can't speak for anyone but myself and I don't understand much of the theory you are posting about.

Sort of like when I was an ironworker. In apprentice school we learned what a cantilever was and some of the theory behind shear versus compression but in the end it was climb that column, stick a spud wrench in the hole and a bolt. Cut it loose and move on to the next point.

So I try to follow all of the scientific stuff as far as I can with my amount of education but thankfully so far I haven't needed to understand it to hone razors and get them shave ready. I'm willing to learn though so keep at it. The puns are cool too.

Jimmy,
I think there is a collective hope that some theory is going to pop out so thanks for bringing us back to earth. Many of us have our own "theories" based on many years of self study and comming up with there own methods. Many people wishing to learn sharpening would be lucky to be at your side if we still had the apprentice system. I myself would totally abuse all my apprentices and have them work on getting pits out of blades with slips for at least the first 5 years.(just joking, apprentices are too smart these days)
I think Jimmy's point is that we need to stay focused on what is new even if old, like kevin did when he dug up the "oil stone" reference if we are to make progress, not to expect a new theory to happen today or tommorrow. I know that is what we like to see but one step at a time. Thanks Jimmy I think weve come back to earth.
Mike

I got into a discussion about this very topic with a carpenter pal of mine. He showed some genuine interest in straight shaving and thats what really started the conversation off. For his planes, he uses a 2000 grit as a finisher. Also, he moves the steel on the hone at a 90 degree angle to how you would hone a straight razor. My theory is that this would reduce the chance of a possible wire edge, but I really dont know why. He claims he was taught to hone his edges from an old Italian guy, Apparently, this old fella would walk around the shop with a 'high grit' stone and the blade, just rubbing them on each other. My pal seems to think the old fella would take a few hours to hone up a plane blade for use. The plane blade has a different use that a razor blade. I have trouble comparing the two. But I can see some rationale there if the plane sharpening methods were some of the only bits of information available at the time.