Thread: Proper activities for a first date w/ jnat

Gents,

The edge supplied by Riooso on an asagi did it's work. I have a modest sized asagi coming from So.

I anticipate it taking some time to get to know the stone, but if there is any thinking about the best regimen, battery of techniques to try that will give that familiarity, 'would appreciate your thoughts.

Many Thanks

This is overly broad, but...

Experiment!

Try everything. Make a slurry, dilute a slurry, don't make a slurry, don't use water, try pressured strokes, try light strokes, compare circle strokes to x-strokes, try coming off a 12k or an 8k or whatever you've got. Just use it a lot and see what happens.

Remember, it's a rock. Unless you drop it, you really can't do any harm to it so you might as well use it every way you can.

As Ron said its a rock I agree with him try diffrent ways to use it and see which one workes best, worst that will happen is you wont like the edge that comes off it. Keep us posted on what workes best for you.

U DOG! Man that did not take long!

I think you will find out soon enough what you like in a edge.


Take Care,
Richard

It's the same when you try any "Natural" stone, you have to play with it.

First thing I do it to determin if it is flat, flatten if needed.

Once I have it ready to hone with I'll hone a razor to the point where I need the "new" hone. If it's replacing a stone I'll use the new one to see how it shaves, than go back a stone to "rough" it up a hair and finish on the replaced hone to see the feel.

Here is where it gets dicey, as you still have to see what the new stone likes. Naturals are just like that and you have to play with them to find that sweet spot.

I basically do the same thing as Chef when I get a new stone. Up to now I wanted a finisher so I would use everything below that then use the finisher to she what she's got.

Take Care,
Richard

About the time I'm happy w/ my edges, the honorable Riooso sends me a blade who's edge is just other-worldly. That's what did me in. Sigh. Wallet in rehab...

Checking for flat/chamfering makes sense as taking care of first things. I've read that simply using w/ just water can leave a harsh edge (shapton blues). So suggested that dry laps would likely do better than just water - I'd never thought of that w/ the jnat.

The rock's mission is just finishing, ATM. It will see blades coming off a c12k. Now perhaps a questions is - does it matter what attributes should be prioritized on the 12K? Just water gives sharp, but not much smoothness. Since the finish will be done by the Asagi, should I forget about 12k harshness & send it to the asagi as wicked sharp as possible? or keep it smooth w/ some slurry on the 12k before introducing the edge to the eastern blue-eyed devil?

I expect to be driven to madness, trying to get all my edges to act like that one from Rio. [queue scene of crazed looking man being lead away in restraints, yelling: it's almost there! 'almost smooth enough. Paramedic: 'another one thought he could get a wacker to shave like a williams. 'sad case. Crazed man: but I love my wackers...]

Seriously, I appreciate your help, gents.

Dwarvenchef: I had the great pleasure of meeting Mr. Carter yesterday. He is one impressive young man.

Originally Posted by pinklather

The rock's mission is just finishing, ATM. It will see blades coming off a c12k. Now perhaps a questions is - does it matter what attributes should be prioritized on the 12K? Just water gives sharp, but not much smoothness. Since the finish will be done by the Asagi, should I forget about 12k harshness & send it to the asagi as wicked sharp as possible? or keep it smooth w/ some slurry on the 12k before introducing the edge to the eastern blue-eyed devil?

Try it both ways and see for yourself! I would guess that you don't need to worry about smooth until your Asagi, but I'm confused about your Chinese hone usage, as I haven't seen the sharp/smooth issue between the slurry/water on the Chinese hone in the way you describe. To me, you get sharp and smooth off of the water. It doesn't really matter which way you go, as the Asagi will modify either edge off of the Chinese hone.

Oh well. As Einstein said, "if we knew what we were doing, it wouldn't be called research!"

I've had the opportunity to use a few Asagi's and they are always a stone I recommend for finishing. Tis one of my favorites. It's fun just to do 10-20X strokes on water following the 8K depending on the size of the stone or do 20 circles each side and then 10 X strokes or do a light slurry with your slurry maker of choice and work to just water. The key for me is very light pressure. With your stone being from So, you know it is a quality piece, so now it's just the fun part.

This stone can also be used to play with the one hone method on a razor in decent shape going from a very thick slurry to water. This may take a little playing around, but the journey will be fun.

Enjoy!

You are in for a love affair that might ruin your other relationships. I just got my new J-Nat this week and every night I have spent hunched over it experimenting and honing razor after razor. My back was aching, my arms were numb, my eyes bloodshot, but I just kept honing. I actually skirted all of my other responsibilities this past week as I could not pull myself away from the stone!

As others have said, I have been experimenting. I tried using it as a straight finisher with just water after my nani 12k. I used it as part of a progression after my coticule dilution with honzan slurry diluted to water.

Two days ago, I got my nagura stones and the last two nights, I have been using those exclusively trying different progressions with them using the one stone method.

Two many options......not enough time! Have fun, but don't fall too far down the rabbit hole.