Thread: One Stone Honing.. from Lynn and Glen

Originally Posted by niftyshaving

Well "at this point in time" I think the stage has been set for
one hone edge refresh and maintainability.

Regarding Glenn's videos...
I like the variety of strokes that Glenn uses as he
progresses through the process. I also like Glenn's
use of tape. His consistent use of tape makes a lot of
sense with this method.

And yes it works... months before I read this thread I
found I could use these same tricks. I think Glenn and Lynn
have been dropping hints for a long time....

hehe you caught that too huh.. I say that on all my Videos, I can get into idiot mode fast I made a Norton 4-8 vid for one of the guys that needed some help, and had to make fun of myself in it for saying it so many times in 13 minutes

"So at this point in time" I shall shut up now

This may be all well and good, but can't you just get down to the nitty gritty and use the nagura to hone the razor and eliminate all those other bothersome rocks?



Keep that elbow at bar height, boys, and wassailing and stropping get so much easier.

Interesteing thread. I've been trying the circle method on the odd straight for a couple of weeks now with varying success. I think that I haven't been using enough pressure on the blade. I would have certainly never considered trying to do it with a single hone though. Something extra to play around with over the Christmas break.

I have been honing for the past year or so the same way on a coticule. Thats funny. It's the only way I hone now. For me it's very quick and effective. Thanks for sharing the video.

I'm probably about the rawest newbie to honing you'll find, so my experience may not count for much, but I've pretty much been doing this method using a nagura progression for the past several weeks. I can't claim to have honed anywhere near the number of blades this way as Lynn and Glenn, but I've had tremendous success--even as a rank amateur!

My method is to get the bevel set and then go to one of my two Oozuku (Assagi or Suita no su). I start with a slurry raised with a botan nagura. I aim for the consistency of 2% milk and do circles until the slurry starts to change color, then I refresh the slurry with the botan and repeat. This usually requires around 30 circles for it to turn colors. Once the slurry changes colors a second time, I wash my stone and razor. I then repeat the same steps using either a meijiro or a tenjou nagura and also with a koma nagura. I follow these with around 50 circles using a tomonagura slurry then wash the stone and do 50 laps with water only. I've consistently gotten very sharp and very smooth edges...

You said 20 circles, but I counted about 100 each way....

I just received my DMT 326 3x8 today!! did your sharpening using the
Norton 1k, and 4,8k, Shapton 16k.

You say 1 stone sharpening, but you also use two stones? heh. Time for math class!

Thanks!!!

Eerie. I actually did almost the same thing earlier this week on my Nakayama--I came off a 1K super & just kept refreshing slurry until the edge was there. Might have to try w/ pressure next time I try this. Another 1st for me on a Nakayama: I actually overdid it on that stone--too many rounds of slurry, methinks! Didn't think that was possible, since it's so slow!

I'm the last one qualified as a critic, and don't care much about the different (I lost count after 65 circles). The only reason to make the note is that I'm still raw enough to be hanging on every detail I can glean from such threads.
take aways:
I feel much better about using pressure when needed - particularly w/ any wave in a blade - and the use of rotational torque. Bravo, Glen, for clarifying!

I feel better about using circles much more heavily than x-strokes. Vids of Japanese barbers show some using only circles on small jnats.

Many Thanks, Gents for sharing the details!

Originally Posted by gssixgun

You really need a bevel setter, for those razors that need heavier lifting, I used a King 1k during all my testing since they are so cheap to buy, and straight forward to use...

Originally Posted by Lynn

I used 20 brand new razors and 10 used/vintage razors on each stone. With the used or vintage razors, I set the bevels on a 1K Naniwa Chosera before going to the naturals. .

Originally Posted by jeffegg2

You said 20 circles, but I counted about 100 each way....

You say 1 stone sharpening, but you also use two stones? heh. Time for math class!

Thanks!!!

You are not the only one that thinks there are way more circles, but trust me I didn't,,, I hone very fast, but I am just not that fast... the video makes me look faster than I really am...
Also if you listen I must say "I go by feel" multiple times the numbers are only a guide, Don't try this by numbers...

Edit: I just re-watched it, there are more than 25 I think I did maybe 10 before I really was counting, I can assure you there is less than 40, I have tried to do more circles on a 8 x 3 and 40 was the most I have ever been able to do...

Also Lynn and I both explained that you need a bevel setter on used razors...


Salute

Great video Glen. Thanks for posting it.