Thread: natural duel stone a llyn melynllyn and dragons tongue

Hey Glenn. The Green hone your talking about. Is that the Posible cutlers green stone he sells?

There just seems to be that something about using a real stone. Not sure that they work better; it just the feel of a large stone that's been here forever!

sorry to bump an old thread, but there's so many threads already on these stones that I didn't want to start another one.

I just bought the 3 stone set, looking forward to trying them all out in all the different ways discussed here, but before I find time to really play with them, one quick question:
When you're using the purple stone to just touch up a razor that's still decent, but starting to tug......would you use a light slurry diluted to water? Or just go straight to water? Previously honed on Norton 1k/4k/8k, finished on C12K (if that matters?)


I lapped the purple one last night, was going to do the other two today, but got sloppy taping the spine of a razor this morning and sliced the hell out of my thumb So....need to wait for this to heal a bit before prepping the other stones, but I'm really overdue for a touch up here, and don't wanna go back to the C12K when there's a brand new stone here that I've been so anxious to try

Sorry to hear about the thumb, I did mine the same way once

The purple one diluted down to water works really well (it cuts pretty fast) and since you have the 3 hone set I would go to the dark fine stone (not dragons tongue) last and use Smiths Honing Solution (not oil based), I've had really good luck with that

Originally Posted by Kavik79

sorry to bump an old thread, but there's so many threads already on these stones that I didn't want to start another one.

I just bought the 3 stone set, looking forward to trying them all out in all the different ways discussed here, but before I find time to really play with them, one quick question:
When you're using the purple stone to just touch up a razor that's still decent, but starting to tug......would you use a light slurry diluted to water? Or just go straight to water? Previously honed on Norton 1k/4k/8k, finished on C12K (if that matters?)


I lapped the purple one last night, was going to do the other two today, but got sloppy taping the spine of a razor this morning and sliced the hell out of my thumb So....need to wait for this to heal a bit before prepping the other stones, but I'm really overdue for a touch up here, and don't wanna go back to the C12K when there's a brand new stone here that I've been so anxious to try

hopefully not exactly the same way...it sucked LOL I didn't slide it at a shallow angle, i slipped off the tip running my thumb along the spine, instinctively pulled my hand away from the edge, but the pad of my thumb somehow made it right under the toe before I yanked back, probably harder than I needed to. Oh well, maybe the 'sacrifice' will save my face in the future, haven't had a nick with that blade in ages lol

Thanks for the reply though, I'll try the slurry diluted to water method and see how it shaves, then try it on the dark "15k" stone next. Not familiar with "Smiths honing solution", but I'll go search for it now

Right on the tip of my thumb, down to the bone I think I had to hold it together with pressure and hold it above my head for 45 mins before I could bandage it, no fun what so ever!!! It probably needed a stitch or two

LOL okay, you win (lose?). Mine only took 20 minutes before I could bandage it. Medical tape works wonders, but yeah, stitches probably would've been smart in both cases...but have never had one yet, wasn't about to over a cut thumb

Originally Posted by Kavik79

LOL okay, you win (lose?). Mine only took 20 minutes before I could bandage it. Medical tape works wonders, but yeah, stitches probably would've been smart in both cases...but have never had one yet, wasn't about to over a cut thumb

It was my right thumb as well, I couldn't strop for a week and had to use a DE. RESPECT the edge.....lol

lucky for me it was my left!

Anyway, I touched up the razor on the purple stone, followed by the finer stone, whatever it's being called nowadays. Did about 30 laps on each diluting from a light slurry to water, then about 15-20 on just water on the second stone.

They certainly sharpened the edge up a lot, but made for one helluva harsh shave Definitely potential here, just need to play around with some of the suggestions here and figure them out better

update: I grabbed a couple razors that I haven't been able to get a decent shave out of yet and decided to work on them tonight. One is a mid 1800's Marshes & Shepherds, the other is one I haven't been able to find out much about, an E.L. Dewsnap's American steel, but it's an oldie with a heavy blade and a slight smile. Both have minor issues (Marshes had a pretty bad frown and Dewsnap has a slight warp in the blade and uneve hone wear) and I'm far from an experienced honer, but I went at it anyway

Took them both back to my norton 1k/4k/8k progression, got a good bevel set on both then kept dulling them every time I went to the 4k. Gave in and reset both bevels with 1 layer of tape and got them both doing well up to 8k with a bit of work

After that I set aside the Marshes for now and took the Dewsnap through 50 laps on the Dragons tongue, heavy slurry diluted to plain water, the last 20 were just water. Then did 30 on the LM with light slurry down to last 10 on plain water. All of this with the lightest pressure I could manage.

Straight off the stones I ran it over a spot on my thigh and at first I thought I screwed up the edge again, felt like I was wiping my leg with the dull side of a butter knife......but all the hair just fell away
This may not be a big deal to most people here, but until now I've never honed an edge that felt this smooth and still cut hair.

Stropped 15 laps on plain linen, 100 on horse hide, if hht is any indicator it look like it might be as sharp as it felt smooth.......I'm just pissed that I don't actually need a shave right now to test it for real LOL


p.s.
My stones aren't polished, just lapped on a coarse DMT then rubbed a bit with their slurry stones that were lapped the same way