Thread: natural duel stone a llyn melynllyn and dragons tongue

You guys sounds like a bunch of "Drama Queens" talking about your Whigs, what next the latest shoe trend?

Just did a side by side with the Greenish WHIG and the Purple WHIG

Razors: Begall full hollow
W&B Special full hollow

Start: These two razors were from the JaNorton thread and were honed on the Norton 4/8 and tested back then, they have not been honed stropped or shaved since that

Standard Test:
I took both razors to the stones with light slurry and 20 Pigtails laps then diluting them out to water every 5 laps, about 40 laps to clear, then more clear water laps about 25 each..

I feel that the Greenish one might be a slightly smoother stone, BTW both were lapped with a DMT 325 (well worn) but it could just be the feel of the stone, slurry was also from the DMT and 5 figure 8's pretty much like I show in my vids.


: Honestly I think all Natural Grit ratings are just dumb, and the fact that in the last 3 years with all the Marketing hype they all just keep getting higher really makes them outlandish..

I did a two razor full shave not half and half, I pretty much switched razors with each stroke on the face, used a Semogue 1305 Boar Brush and Boots shave soap followed with Pinaud Clubman AS (my standard test shave)

Honestly I could not tell a difference, they both shaved just fine, a touch of bite with the AS but that is the razors not the stones Sheffields and I do that

I will try one of them on my test razor later on to see how it goes, I have one razor I test every Stone or Hone on it, is the best I can do for testing the hone itself and even that isn't really fair...

So far so good

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Just did a side by side with the Greenish WHIG and the Purple WHIG

Razors: Begall full hollow
W&B Special full hollow

Start: These two razors were from the JaNorton thread and were honed on the Norton 4/8 and tested back then, they have not been honed stropped or shaved since that

Standard Test:
I took both razors to the stones with light slurry and 20 Pigtails laps then diluting them out to water every 5 laps, about 40 laps to clear, then more clear water laps about 25 each..

I feel that the Greenish one might be a slightly smoother stone, BTW both were lapped with a DMT 325 (well worn) but it could just be the feel of the stone, slurry was also from the DMT and 5 figure 8's pretty much like I show in my vids.


: Honestly I think all Natural Grit ratings are just dumb, and the fact that in the last 3 years with all the Marketing hype they all just keep getting higher really makes them outlandish..

I did a two razor full shave not half and half, I pretty much switched razors with each stroke on the face, used a Semogue 1305 Boar Brush and Boots shave soap followed with Pinaud Clubman AS (my standard test shave)

Honestly I could not tell a difference, they both shaved just fine, a touch of bite with the AS but that is the razors not the stones Sheffields and I do that

I will try one of them on my test razor later on to see how it goes, I have one razor I test every Stone or Hone on it, is the best I can do for testing the hone itself and even that isn't really fair...

So far so good

Sounds like a good review so far, its kinda funny how Shams review was so bad compared to so many!

So the green and purple seem pretty much on a par? How are these edges compared to other stones such as Charnleys, Llyn Idwal, Naniwa 12K, C12K, Coticule?

Originally Posted by Martin103

Sounds like a good review so far, its kinda funny how Shams review was so bad compared to so many!

Don't know Sham doesn't post here..

Originally Posted by Jeltz

So the green and purple seem pretty much on a par? How are these edges compared to other stones such as Charnleys, Llyn Idwal, Naniwa 12K, C12K, Coticule?

Haven't really done any of those tests yet, will keep messing with them and they will either find a spot in my arsenal or they will get set to the side and just become fun stones...

Originally Posted by Jeltz

So the green and purple seem pretty much on a par? How are these edges compared to other stones such as Charnleys, Llyn Idwal, Naniwa 12K, C12K, Coticule?

Here's what I've found when I've compared the LM's to my other finishers:

The LM leaves a smooth edge. Truth be told, I find it the most comfortable for my skin, but that may not be the case for others. I've tried it against my Naniwa 12k, Charnley, and a couple of Coticules. The edge in my opinion is the closest to the coticule feeling. It's sharp, but smooth is a more apt definition. Compared to the Naniwa, it not as "crisp". I find the Naniwa 12k a very good combination between sharp and smooth. LM compared to Charnley Forest, same thing....the Charnely is a crisp crisp edge IMO, and the LM is much smoother.

Again, I find it feels very similar to a coticule edge.

Originally Posted by Martin103

Sounds like a good review so far, its kinda funny how Shams review was so bad compared to so many!

I tried to word a response without making it sound like I was bashing anyone, but it wasn't easy so I decided to just say this. I'd be more than happy to let Sham try out my stones since I think mine are a lot better than the ones he's tried......... if I didn't like mine so much and didn't want to do without them.

I have used my stones on about 20 razors in my collection so far and not one has given anything less then a stellar shave. So smooth infact it almost feels like the razors are dull but the hair just falls off and leaves smooth skin behind. I have sold all my nortons and nanis, bought a translucent ark and am now all natural baby!

Originally Posted by groovyd

I have used my stones on about 20 razors in my collection so far and not one has given anything less then a stellar shave. So smooth infact it almost feels like the razors are dull but the hair just falls off and leaves smooth skin behind. I have sold all my nortons and nanis, bought a translucent ark and am now all natural baby!

I've had really good luck with mine also. My Dragons Tongue with heavy slurry seems to fall in the 3K-4K range and is really nice for mid range honing and with some dilutions it moves into the 6k-8k range. My LM is somewhere above that and is a great finisher.

Originally Posted by groovyd

I have used my stones on about 20 razors in my collection so far and not one has given anything less then a stellar shave. So smooth infact it almost feels like the razors are dull but the hair just falls off and leaves smooth skin behind. I have sold all my nortons and nanis, bought a translucent ark and am now all natural baby!

How do you set a bevel?

I still need my Naniwa 1k. Once the bevel is set, I let the LM do its magic with slurry.