Thread: Re-etched Wade and Butcher Celebrated FBUs

Originally Posted by Phrank

This is fraud, plain and simple, and downright deceitful and dishonest.

You can have a great Thuringen stone in an Escher box, but unless it has the label, it's not an Escher.

When you put on a false label on something, especially knowingly, personally, you're a crook, plain and simple.

I do not disagree with you Phrank, but what if it was a W&B with a masonic that had been worn away and there just putting it back on the best they can and telling you thats what they did.

Originally Posted by Phrank

This is fraud, plain and simple, and downright deceitful and dishonest.

You can have a great Thuringen stone in an Escher box, but unless it has the label, it's not an Escher.

When you put on a false label on something, especially knowingly, personally, you're a crook, plain and simple.

The thing is, it is not an accurate representation of the original etching. It is oversize, and not placed in the same area of the blade. It reminds me of the old "Ford Cobra" fiberglass copies on VW chassis and engine. For those who wanted the look without having the cash, or the desire to spend it if they had it.

What was inscribed or not inscribed on the blade beforehand is irrelevant in my opinion.

The fact is, it is was a very nice razor, regardless of what had been etched there or not. What possible motive would someone have for taking a razor and etching something on it? The only motive I can think of is the knowledge that with those markings, it fetches a far higher price.

If someone showed me their, W&B, Celebrated FBU, and I saw that false etching, I'd say it was a fake, and pretty much now you have a very nice old W&B that's been ruined with these counterfeit markings. In other words, IMO, the original blade was quite nice, gorgeous blade, and it was defaced for no other motive that a higher price tag - razor is ruined now IMO, basically worthless....

Originally Posted by Phrank

What was inscribed or not inscribed on the blade beforehand is irrelevant in my opinion.

The fact is, it is was a very nice razor, regardless of what had been etched there or not. What possible motive would someone have for taking a razor and etching something on it?

If I had an etching that I wanted to restore I would definitely do this, but only if I could assure that it was true to original form. In my mind this is about the same as making new (to old standards) scales or bullseye washers or whatever. But I wouldn't do it unless I knew it was there originally.

Originally Posted by Phrank

This is fraud, plain and simple, and downright deceitful and dishonest.

This time he does state that it's been re-etched.

Originally Posted by Phrank

What was inscribed or not inscribed on the blade beforehand is irrelevant in my opinion.

The fact is, it is was a very nice razor, regardless of what had been etched there or not. What possible motive would someone have for taking a razor and etching something on it? The only motive I can think of is the knowledge that with those markings, it fetches a far higher price.

If someone showed me their, W&B, Celebrated FBU, and I saw that false etching, I'd say it was a fake, and pretty much now you have a very nice old W&B that's been ruined with these counterfeit markings. In other words, IMO, the original blade was quite nice, gorgeous blade, and it was defaced for no other motive that a higher price tag - razor is ruined now IMO, basically worthless....

I agree on that level. For me, it would lose its appeal. I'm picky about restoration/alteration work as it is, I can't stand excessive polish/non-traditional scales let alone this sort of thing...

Ol' Wolfpack will fix THAT! No worries! (Just don't pay that much for THAT!)

The only real comparative point we have comes from de where ppl have had higher end items stripped and redone in rhodium/palladium/etc.. Some ppl love those things, others just wished they left the nickel, gold, or silver alone, or if it were in bad shape just replaced it.

Originally Posted by ScienceGuy

This time he does state that it's been re-etched.

Sure, but why deface a blade like that...sheesh...he might as well have done something like, Comic Sans font, The Celebrated, Hollow Ground Razor, For Barbers Use, not really be that different, how about Time New Roman, or maybe Century Gothic, still defacing an otherwise nice vintage razor....sorry, but from my point of view, the exercise is senseless and futile and just ruins and otherwise perfectly vintage razor. Just my opinion of course...

Yeah, I don't dig it either but so long as ppl are up front about it I wish them well with what they try to sell.