Thread: Before you link to an active auction

Originally Posted by holli4pirating

posting auctions increases visibility, which increases prices.

Posting active auctions here does increase visibility, allowing members to:

1) Help each other NOT overpay for items with damage we might not have noticed ourselves

2) Point out items we don't really give a hoot about ourselves, to others here on the forum who might want them ("hey, I know you've been looking for a suchandsuch, here's one I found, go buy it!")

Isn't the point of SRP to share and help others enjoy this hobby?

Just think of all the cheap razors Lynn could have grabbed for himself if he hadn't started this site and shared the love with everyone else.

Sharing is caring, fellas.

Originally Posted by olafurson

1) Help each other NOT overpay for items with damage we might not have noticed ourselves

2) Point out items we don't really give a hoot about ourselves, to others here on the forum who might want them ("hey, I know you've been looking for a suchandsuch, here's one I found, go buy it!")

If 1 is the case, then the price won't get driven up. Making people aware of issues can be a good thing. But I still see potential downsides; for example if one thinks it's an issue they can fix and would like to get the razor really cheap.

If 2 is the case, I simply send whoever I think may be interested a PM. I want them to get it, but I don't want them to overpay for it because I showed it to EVERYONE. To me, posting publicly is not doing anyone a favor, but sending a PM is. And if I PM someone and they say they're not interested, then I'll pass it on to someone else or suggest they do the same. Publicity will favor the sellers, not the buyers, and it's the buyers I'd like to help out.

Originally Posted by olafurson

Posting active auctions here does increase visibility, allowing members to:

1) Help each other NOT overpay for items with damage we might not have noticed ourselves

2) Point out items we don't really give a hoot about ourselves, to others here on the forum who might want them ("hey, I know you've been looking for a suchandsuch, here's one I found, go buy it!")

Isn't the point of SRP to share and help others enjoy this hobby?

Just think of all the cheap razors Lynn could have grabbed for himself if he hadn't started this site and shared the love with everyone else.

Sharing is caring, fellas.

I agree with your first point, as it is bringing to light razor issues/problems forum members may have overlooked. But from my perspective, on the second point, it's kind of a brother code for me not to advertise auctions that others may be bidding on. I can see your point that sharing of info is caring in the sense of getting information out, but unfortunately it doesn't always translate well to caring for the collective pocketbook.

Yeah Ive been tempted before to post about active auctions I'm involved in like my current auction for a 7day set but i don't want to ever post links for fear that someone who googles "7day" set will see my link and bid against me ive already lost razors i want because of that.

Originally Posted by olafurson

Posting active auctions here does increase visibility, allowing members to:
1) Help each other NOT overpay for items with damage we might not have noticed ourselves
Isn't the point of SRP to share and help others enjoy this hobby?
Sharing is caring, fella

Yup, I agree with the posting of damaged or bogus goods.

Calling attention to a given product, say seven day set is a dis-service and not sharing but bullying. Tell one buddy if that is what they want, but let them bid or not. I would guess that since his post there have been about umpty 'leven folks who have gone to that posting of just the name on 'bay, maybe the original poster will tell us how he won or lost???

Why should someone that has done their homework be screwed over by a loudmouth looking for a pat on the back??? Some folks have the money to buy whatever they see, So why screw the guy that does not have that advantage from having a chance.

Respectfully
~Richard

Oh, come on guys. Public auctions are a public information. It is true that increased visibility tends to increase the prices, but please keep in mind that this is free market.
At the end of the day if you didn't win something it's because somebody else was willing to pay more for it. Nobody is entitled to purchase razors for cheap just because they want to, or because they don't have the means to pay true market prices.

I tried to allude to this in my previous post, but why is a razor selling for more than you expect it to sell screwing the buyers, when a razor selling for less than you expect isn't screwing the seller? Why do buyers have to buy razors for cheap, but the sellers shouldn't sell their razors expensive?

I've seen enough people complaining about attention being drawn to ebay auctions only to, when they win a cheap razor, to turn around and sell it on the classifieds, or their website, for what they find to be an 'exorbitant price' on ebay.

I don't have any problem with prices or profits, I have problem with the hypocrisy. If you can get something 'flying under the radar' congratulations and good for you, but this demanding other people keeping quiet just so that things stay 'under the radar' for you to buy under market prices this strikes me as just wrong.

Originally Posted by gugi

Oh, come on guys. Public auctions are a public information. It is true that increased visibility tends to increase the prices, but please keep in mind that this is free market.
At the end of the day if you didn't win something it's because somebody else was willing to pay more for it. Nobody is entitled to purchase razors for cheap just because they want to, or because they don't have the means to pay true market prices.

I tried to allude to this in my previous post, but why is a razor selling for more than you expect it to sell screwing the buyers, when a razor selling for less than you expect isn't screwing the seller? Why do buyers have to buy razors for cheap, but the sellers shouldn't sell their razors expensive?

I've seen enough people complaining about attention being drawn to ebay auctions only to, when they win a cheap razor, to turn around and sell it on the classifieds, or their website, for what they find to be an 'exorbitant price' on ebay.

I don't have any problem with prices or profits, I have problem with the hypocrisy. If you can get something 'flying under the radar' congratulations and good for you, but this demanding other people keeping quiet just so that things stay 'under the radar' for you to buy under market prices this strikes me as just wrong.

Really now? I don't think it's possible for any Ebay auction to be "flying under the radar" given it's visibility. Ebay has created a huge fair free market of buyers and sellers with the Ebay auction site. Bringing extra attention, and thereby unnecessary extra demand, by posting here if you are not the seller of the auction, is quite simply not something i would ever do to a forum member. I mean posting it here is like advertising free drinks at the bar. And if i understand correctly, SRP members who are the sellers of an Ebay auctions can and do post their auctions, so they are treated quite fairly here. I think that what most are trying to convey here is simply have a little courtesy for forum members who may be bidding, and not create extra unnecessary market demand on top of an already very fair and well advertised market.

I don't understand that point. If there's a free and open market, the extra visibility makes no difference. If it makes any difference that means before it the razors were undervalued.
Sorry, but you can't have it both ways - you're trying to suppress visibility in order to decrease the demand. SRP has an open membership so why are you concerned more about the potential buying members, than about the potential selling members? Yes, sellers are allowed to post links to their auctions but very few do it, and I am pretty sure that if this section becomes swamped with advertising this would probably be the end of it.
I really don't feel sorry for anybody who has to say buy their Filarmonica for $500 instead of $100. We're not talking about people not being able to buy razors to shave here. We're talking about excess and highly desirable though completely unnecessary razors, so I have no much sympathy for it. In my view nobody is entitled to luxury items at trash pricing and that's what this seems to be about.

I think most, if not all, of my links have been auctions that were over I agree w/ holli4pirating. A PM to someone you know who may be looking for a particular blade is not a bad idea either.

Honestly I just did a quick search through the threads in this Forum section and had to go back to 3/12/11 to find one thread like what we are talking about here,, Granted I only looked at the titles so I might have missed some...

Those "Look at this razor" threads seem to pop up now and then with one over-enthusiastic Newbie that honestly believes that we all don't look on E-bay and everywhere else for these razors and stones and that they are somehow doing everyone here a huge favor by pointing it out They learn soon enough that these threads are answered quite quickly by the "Ya we know it's there" response and they stop posting the threads...