Thread: Dubl Duck - Satinedge Goldedge - what's it all mean?

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Time to put this all to bed.

Yes sir, the Made in France stamping is hard to argue with. Large as life for all to see.

Bob

A couple more examples....

Well, and then there's this:

• VINTAGE PEARLDUCK DUBLE DUCK GERMAN MADE FOR FRENCH USERS, WIDE 13/16" BLADE (06/12/2014).
• Nelson's razor clearly younger than 1927, but has no logo. How odd.
• Nothing in any French commercial registry.
• Nothing in any French razor forum.

And that's not mentioning that "Made in Germany" wouldn't exactly have gone down well with the French while Bresduck was operational.

But that's all circumstantial.

What would be more interesting would be a visit to Sabatier K, because Bresduck did have knives produced by them. Apparently. Maybe. Because Sabatier K had, and still have, their production facilities in Thiers, not Paris, but the knives say "Paris".

Either way, that's one, possibly two, razors vs. tens of thousands to come out of Solingen. I'd call that insubstantial. Which was the point all along.

Well done , now rumor is confirmed, they were made in other countries, but then again maybe the made in Germany stamp was faked and they were all made In Japan, I heard that from an old Spanish guy who worked in Nagasaki. Tc

Originally Posted by tcrideshd

Well done , now rumor is confirmed,

You do realise that "now" is a strange term to use when we've known this for seven years?

Originally Posted by tcrideshd

but then again maybe the made in Germany stamp was faked and they were all made In Japan, I heard that from an old Spanish guy who worked in Nagasaki.

Actually, that makes a lot of sense, given your track record with razor research. Thank you for proving my point.

After all is said and done I now know that DD SRs were made in at least 2 different countries but exactly who made them and in what numbers is still a matter hearsay and extrapolation. For me, I am willing to "believe" that it is "possible" that both Dovo and Sabatier K were some of the makers. For the most part it is still an interesting mystery.

Bob

Apparently, nothing gets done right unless you do it yourself...

Stefan P. Wolf Mar 27, 2003
[...]
I just talked to Mr. Stremmel, the managing director of DOVO (32 years in the company if I remember correctly). Besides other stuff I asked him about the various rumours on DOVO making razors for other companies. This is what he told me:

DUBL-DUCK:
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DUBL-DUCK was a trademark by the New York company PEARLDUCK (my remark: the first company name was BRESDUCK). About 10-15 years ago DOVO made DUBL-DUCK straight razors for Pearlduck. Obviously (see John's message) Puma did the same for some time.[...] [Source]

Not much to add, but both DD razors I own have pinning issues, warped scales and probably borderline cellrot. The satinedge honed up nicely, haven't tried the goldedge yet but sure it will take a good edge. In reality I wouldn't recommend purchasing one unless you are experienced in restoration and prepared to make new scales.
Wherever the blade came from, the supplier of the celluloid deserves a swift poke in the eye....

Originally Posted by RobinK

Apparently, nothing gets done right unless you do it yourself...

Well the first company wasn't Bresduck it was Bresnick and the razors were marked Bresnick or CS Bresnick. If you look at the Ducks going way back (and I have about 40 of them) you see the gradual evolution of the name from Bresnick to Bresduck to DD and you see the introduction of the duck logo first with no ducks and then one duck and then two. Bresnick owned the first two and then sold the company to one of his employees Mr Pearlson (which is where the Pearl in pearlduck comes from)who then changed the name of the outfit to DD and started using the cracked ice scales which pretty much defined most of their lineup. Also over time the outfit moved from lower Manhattan to mid town and then to Jamaica, Queens where it remained as DD until it's end. Actually that wasn't the end the outfit was again sold and moved to long island selling beauty supplies and the last time I heard they were in Westchester Co N.Y selling dog grooming supplies.

Really the fact Dovo made DDs is no mystery we all know Dovo has made and still makes razors for a bunch of other outfits like Col Conk for instance. No One ever said this wasn't the case (or at least I didn't). The question is did Dovo make every DD and that is where we disagree apparently. Absent evidence that says otherwise I remain with the opinion their razors came from more than one source. I guess someone should have asked Mr Pearlson who died several years ago (but not that many). Now it's too late.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

The question is did Dovo make every DD and that is where we disagree apparently. Absent evidence that says otherwise I remain with the opinion their razors came from more than one source.

But Nelson, nobody said that Dovo made every Dubl Duck. Everyone knows Puma made some. Most certainly other Solingen manufacturers, too, as stated previously. There are some very few, obscure Dubl Ducks of "mysterious" origin, possibly including France. And then there are thousands and thousands of Dubl Ducks that definitely came from Solingen.

Which means we do not disagree at all.

By the way, the gentleman's name was Perlson, not Pearlson, cf. http://straightrazorpalace.com/srpwi.../Pearlduck_Inc.

PS This is funny.