Thread: Rubberset Aluminum #3 - What to do....

Originally Posted by MikeB52

Well Andrew, been noodling on that, and I'm leaning similar to Mike's idea,,,
Taken every measurement I can think of off the original now and will post them on this thread with Phrank's permission once I clean up my bar napkin designs a little..

I have a couple of ideas, both involve a 22mm or 7/8th drill bit and or round nose router bit of the same dia..

Set at 60' indexing on the lathe either a router jig with a round nosed bit to carve them out from the outside once the general profile is turned,

or a 7/8 drill bit, set to 22 mm circle from center with a compass, indexing the 60' points around said circle and end drill through the blank to the desired depth of flute, so it looks like a square 6 shooter barrel prior to turning kinda thing. Then turn to profile.
Think the first one I try, in hardwood, will be the end drill trial as I haven't made my router jig yet. Will waste more of the blank trying it the drilling way as opposed to the router route but it is just a trial at this point.
When I measured the rad of the flutes I was surprised it was as large as it was, but math don't lie..

Had to come into the plant today sadly or I would be working on it today.

Very considerate of you to ask Mike, but anything for the community is always for sharing as far as I'm concerned, take your time and get it right if the desire is there for good specs...I'm in no rush to get it.

Again, great job Mike and thanks!

I'm going to set up in my Bridgeport with a ball end mill and use a spindex.

Third shave with a boar brush tonight, it's amazing what 18 months can do for perspective, am simply really impressed with how nicely these brushes perform, tried my old Omega 10098 (long handled one??) for the second time, and these have lots of scritch, great backbone, no lather flinging or dripping...guess as a straight shaver I'm "evolving" and entering into the, "Boar Brush" phase....who know's what's next, might be Japanese Razor obsession time...the dread for the Rubberset has now turned into expectation, and am once again very thankful Mike told me to hold off on replacing the knot before I proclaimed, "Off with it's Bazzterd Boar Head!"

Originally Posted by Phrank

Third shave with a boar brush tonight, it's amazing what 18 months can do for perspective, am simply really impressed with how nicely these brushes perform, tried my old Omega 10098 (long handled one??) for the second time, and these have lots of scritch, great backbone, no lather flinging or dripping...guess as a straight shaver I'm "evolving" and entering into the, "Boar Brush" phase....who know's what's next, might be Japanese Razor obsession time...the dread for the Rubberset has now turned into expectation, and am once again very thankful Mike told me to hold off on replacing the knot before I proclaimed, "Off with it's Bazzterd Boar Head!"

Great, Phrank! May I inquire as to what made the difference?

Originally Posted by sharptonn

Great, Phrank! May I inquire as to what made the difference?

The answer personally would be nothing more than experience.

When I first started out, guess it comes down to not knowing how to make a proper lather (water ratio / loading), bowl lather vs face lather, was still learning, and not really knowing the characteristics. Just goes to show you, I would have sworn up and down you'd never get me to like a boar brush, after the last three shaves, the Semogue had lots of use, this is the second time with the Omega (if I even used it other than rinsing it) and both were stellar performers, to the point where I cringed with the thought of having to pack up all my badgers for a period of extremely expensive hibernation....gulp!

And as mentioned, just wetting the tips, the whole brush ends up wet anyhow, you haven't quite sold me on that yet...give me a couple of weeks...I'm still "evolving"....

Originally Posted by Phrank

The answer personally would be nothing more than experience.

When I first started out, guess it comes down to not knowing how to make a proper lather (water ratio / loading), bowl lather vs face lather, was still learning, and not really knowing the characteristics. Just goes to show you, I would have sworn up and down you'd never get me to like a boar brush, after the last three shaves, the Semogue had lots of use, this is the second time with the Omega (if I even used it other than rinsing it) and both were stellar performers, to the point where I cringed with the thought of having to pack up all my badgers for a period of extremely expensive hibernation....gulp!

And as mentioned, just wetting the tips, the whole brush ends up wet anyhow, you haven't quite sold me on that yet...give me a couple of weeks...I'm still "evolving"....

Simple! This is experience! It was not loaded with too much water to begin with! It wound up being loaded with lather! (big difference!)
Adding the water as it is needed by dipping the tips is educational, but only to a particular brush, soap/cream used often enough to hit the right combination.
Otherwise, add a little as-needed. I suppose you can add water to lather, but not vice-versa?
Glad you are using that Omega. I have 2 and like them a lot, no matter the cost (cheap!).
The Rubberset will be different as well!

Originally Posted by sharptonn

Simple! This is experience! It was not loaded with too much water to begin with! It wound up being loaded with lather! (big difference!)
Adding the water as it is needed by dipping the tips is educational, but only to a particular brush, soap/cream used often enough to hit the right combination.
Otherwise, add a little as-needed. I suppose you can add water to lather, but not vice-versa?
Glad you are using that Omega. I have 2 and like them a lot, no matter the cost (cheap!).
The Rubberset will be different as well!

Ahhhh....I get what you're saying now!!!!!

Just wet the tips, and through the natural process of making lather the brush will load with what you want - lather!!! Rather than water, which will drip and fling!!!! Now I see where you're going with that, and it makes perfect sense now, and of course it's 100% logical....going to do that next time with that objective in mind.

Thanks Tom - the fog has lifted...

Very good descriptions both of you. Think I too was making runny lather for some time as I evolved..
This rebuild came at a good time in my SR 'life'.
I probably would have wanted to lop off its head instead of cleaning it, or burned it with harsh chemicals in my enthusiasm to make it white again a year ago.
Finesse, and perspective only come with hands on experience, in most things I have found. Certainly true in this endeavor..
This threads become quite educational..

Originally Posted by MikeB52

Very good descriptions both of you. Think I too was making runny lather for some time as I evolved..
This rebuild came at a good time in my SR 'life'.
I probably would have wanted to lop off its head instead of cleaning it, or burned it with harsh chemicals in my enthusiasm to make it white again a year ago.
Finesse, and perspective only come with hands on experience, in most things I have found. Certainly true in this endeavor..
This threads become quite educational..

Really, amazing how there's still lots to learn, so now the trick will be loading the badgers the same way, get em filled with lather rather than water...as Spock would say, "I find this fascinating!"

Thanks Tom!

Cool, Gents! I preach it all the time. Works a Treat!

You must remember that lather is generated at the tips by aerating water and soap, to some unknown ratio without soaking the shafts and keeping the brush right. Keep at the trick and load it up!