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    Default A couple of questions for the brush makers

    First up: I worked with envirotex for scales and liked it, but I'm shopping for the best price on a similar product. I can get envirotex for $36 shipped for a 1/2 gallon. I'd buy a gallon or more if I knew I could get a deal on something of similar quality. Anyone use similar, but less expensive products?

    And then I'm clueless about my lathe I just bought. I know this end here holds something called a chuck:
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    Maybe that's some kind of chuck I attached to it, but I'm thinking about the kind of chuck that has teeth or arms like this. Should I back order that from Harbor Freight (It's expected to come in around late February) since I can get it for about 30 shipped and it's MT1 sized, which fits my lathe? Seems like it would be handy to have a chuck that could grip like that and all the other chucks I've seen are 2 or 3 times the price.

    I may be able to get started without that type of chuck. After watching several you tube videos, I liked Charlie Lewis's the mostShaving Brush Turning Demonstration - YouTube
    since he made due without one. But, I would like to make a handle with a flat base and his technique in the vid seems better suited for the rounded base he makes. Having a chuck that grips would make it much easier to finish a flat base, yes?

    Last questions for now: Where can I find a U shaped chisel and may I just sharpen it on my dmt on it's outside edge the way I would sharpen anything else, or do I need some sort of diamond rod to sharpen the inside? Edit: OK, what I really want to know, now that I know I'm talking about a gouge, is what is a good value gouge for turning handles?
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    Well I wont be able to help much here. I make all my own tooling and use a metal lathe.
    Maybe Pixel will chime in. Sorry!!
    You may try the Woodworkers Guild website for some of your info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walleyeman View Post
    Well I wont be able to help much here. I make all my own tooling and use a metal lathe.
    Maybe Pixel will chime in. Sorry!!
    You may try the Woodworkers Guild website for some of your info.

    Ray
    Thanks for the response. I'll check out the Woodworkers Guild. It sounds like I can use acrylic/micarta just like wood, but I'll need sharper tools.

    I've got some scrap cedar I can practice on, so I'll probably pick up a cheap set of chisels at harbor freight, sharpen them up and see how it goes.

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    Your main concerns at this point is your work holding capibiltys ( how to chuck materials).
    In Charlies excellant vids he is turning between centers as I do most of the time.
    Some handles I use a 3 jaw Chuck.
    Practice on your cedar,be carefull.
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    I turn between centers mount of the time as well, but I learned a trick that is quite helpful. If you go to a shoe repair shop you can buy heel material that is quite tough and can be glued with leather or rubber cement to the base of your stock. This is where you tap in your center on the base of your brush and it will come off easily when you are through and leave no marks on the bottom of your handle to have to work out.

    I have found this safe and have never had one come loose while working any material. You can get any type of chisel / gouge / tool that you would ever want from Highland Hardware. They are in Atlanta and have acquired a ton of my money over the years, and I highly recommend them.

    Never rush your work or try to hog out too much material too fast, that is where bad things happen. Stabilized wood for example is very hard and cannot be rushed, and watch some video to get the angle of your gouge just right for your work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    Your main concerns at this point is your work holding capibiltys ( how to chuck materials).
    In Charlies excellant vids he is turning between centers as I do most of the time.
    Some handles I use a 3 jaw Chuck.
    Practice on your cedar,be carefull.
    Quote Originally Posted by WillN View Post
    I turn between centers mount of the time as well, but I learned a trick that is quite helpful. If you go to a shoe repair shop you can buy heel material that is quite tough and can be glued with leather or rubber cement to the base of your stock. This is where you tap in your center on the base of your brush and it will come off easily when you are through and leave no marks on the bottom of your handle to have to work out.

    I have found this safe and have never had one come loose while working any material. You can get any type of chisel / gouge / tool that you would ever want from Highland Hardware. They are in Atlanta and have acquired a ton of my money over the years, and I highly recommend them.

    Never rush your work or try to hog out too much material too fast, that is where bad things happen. Stabilized wood for example is very hard and cannot be rushed, and watch some video to get the angle of your gouge just right for your work.

    Will N.
    Thanks for the replies. Here's where I'm at so far. Time for the family trip to Costco, so I'll have to pick up later.
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    Thats a pce of cedar that could possibly come apart,also move the tool post a bit farthur away from the wood.JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    Thats a pce of cedar that could possibly come apart,also move the tool post a bit farthur away from the wood.JMO
    Yes! What he said, good advice

    Will N.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pixelfixed View Post
    Thats a pce of cedar that could possibly come apart,also move the tool post a bit farthur away from the wood.JMO
    Quote Originally Posted by WillN View Post
    Yes! What he said, good advice

    Will N.
    Will do.

    What do ya'll think about the safety of that chuck. It felt like it was in there pretty good to me and I'm not overly concerned, but what do I know? How deep should I set it?

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    I wasn't thinking of actually using this cedar, but I made a bench out of it and it'd be kind of neat to use the same material. Is there any way for me to use this since it's not stabilized?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RADisorder View Post
    Will do.

    What do ya'll think about the safety of that chuck. It felt like it was in there pretty good to me and I'm not overly concerned, but what do I know? How deep should I set it?

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    I wasn't thinking of actually using this cedar, but I made a bench out of it and it'd be kind of neat to use the same material. Is there any way for me to use this since it's not stabilized?
    Not quite understang your question, if what you are showing is for the spur, is plenty deep enough.
    My concern is the the workpiece is cracked and when turning anything alot of torque is applied,it could come apart.
    WhenI use a spur I drill nothing except a 60deg guide hole for the very point
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