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08-19-2013, 01:32 PM #1
A word about side effects ....... A good friend of mine tried Zyban and it didn't remove his cravings, gave him unpleasant side effects, and he stopped taking them and continued to smoke. A year or two later he tried the generic form of Zyban, Wellbutrin and successfully quit smoking.
He encouraged me to try the Welbutrin and I've looked into the side effects of Zyban, Welbutrin and Chentrex, and read the horror stories. So I haven't gone to those helps. The last time I tried to quit was in February after a bout with pneumonia. I bought the gum.
Open the pack and the manufacturers furnish a long instruction sheet. The last thing it says, IIRC, is that you have to really want to quit. Not saying this to discourage you, but it is the real tip IME. I've talked to people who have used one or all of the above at one time or another, to successfully quit. So side effects or not, it can be done. IOW, don't let the possibility of side effects scare you off out of the gate.
A few years ago I quit for 28 days cold turkey. My method was to begin holding off from smoking the first pipe as long as I could. I usually smoke my first one with my morning coffee right off the bat. Within a few days of extending the time for my first one I didn't smoke at all. This particular attempt was like a gift. I had virtually no cravings and was happy as a pig in mud. I was a non smoker.
On day 29 I got such extreme cravings that I gave in and went back to it. It was like I never left. I don't think a day goes by that I don't think about quitting. Friends who've successfully quit with the pills encourage me to try them but I don't because as much as I want to quit, I want to smoke too.
My experience in my younger days, with substances that are considered far more addictive, was that when I wanted to stop more than I wanted to continue using them, I stopped. Not easy, and there is no avoiding the battle, but like a lot of things, if you want it bad enough you can do it.
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Leatherstockiings (08-19-2013)
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08-20-2013, 06:15 AM #2
I had the same thing with Chantix, very strange and lucid dreams, and then alternate bouts of sleeplessness, felt like a zombie, I even had something akin to what I believe would be an LSD acid trip while driving one day. I had to pull over and for about 15 to 20 minutes I had to get my head together and plan every intersection and stop light on a well worn route home before I felt safe to drive again. The stuff should be illegal IMO.
It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled. Twain
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Leatherstockiings (08-20-2013)
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08-20-2013, 01:56 PM #3
That sounds like a nightmare!! I have heard that from more than a few people... more importantly, so has the medical profession. Their take: "The benefits it provides for most, outweighs the harm it does to a few."
I wonder what pharmaceutical lobby group paid the moneys needed to have that message pounded into the professions head lol? I mean when did medicine start thinking in the aggregate? LOL - what a joke.David
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Leatherstockiings (08-20-2013)
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08-20-2013, 02:01 PM #4
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Leatherstockiings (08-20-2013)
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08-20-2013, 06:50 AM #5
A brilliant man once said "Quitting is the easiest thing I've ever done, I must've done it a thousand times" -Mark Twain.
I agree with that statement quitting is easy, it's staying quit that's the problem.
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Leatherstockiings (08-20-2013)
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08-20-2013, 08:58 AM #6
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Leatherstockiings (08-20-2013)
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08-20-2013, 05:43 PM #7
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08-20-2013, 05:53 PM #8
March 4, 1986, 430PM. I remember when, where and who was there. It was very difficult to do for me. I read the US Army Guide to Physical Fitness which helped a great deal. There was one entire chapter on how to quit.
Good Luck.“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
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Leatherstockiings (08-20-2013)
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08-20-2013, 02:24 PM #9
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Thanked: 4942I quit a thousand times successfully, but the last successful time was using Chantix also. Now, what to do about the cigars is another story.....
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Leatherstockiings (08-20-2013)
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08-20-2013, 02:33 PM #10
I hear you on that lol!! The way I see it is cigarettes are a destructive habit. They are created to be excessive. A cigar is meant to be savored, enjoyed... it's a blood pressure reducer
. It's akin to drinking 12 Budweiser vs say One micro-brew.
And you know what - my doctor agrees! She has no problem with me enjoying a good stick now and again. Moreover it must be ok because my health insurance premiums and my life insurance premiums didn't go up when I admitted I smoked a stick now and again.
That's good enough for me!! You?? lol!
David
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