Thread: Strike against Syria

We just don't seem capable of learning from history. While I deplore the deaths inflicted upon innocents, we should stay out of the internal political struggles of other countries. IMHO we have more to focus upon here in our own country.

Oh goody! Another chance to piss away a couple billion more dollars propping up a radical islamic government. If things go really well, we'll even have the chance to have a few of America's finest killed or permanently maimed for no significant American benefit. See also Egypt, Libya, and anywhere else the Arab Spring scam took place. I hate to see Syrian women and kids killed for no good reason but hey, that's what tyrants do. I think the days when we would, should or even could police the world are over.

I have already parked one post that was inappropriate. Let's try and keep things within bounds. This is likely to become one of those highly controversial threads, but let's keep it civil and respectful. Thanks.

We should not forget that the insurgents aren't thoroughbred democrats either. If you interfere you replace one tyrant with another. The West interfered in Irak and Afghanistan. Are Irakis and Afghans happier people today than they were 10 or 20 years ago? Are they better off? Interfering may make the US feel good: "Hey, we stopped chemical warfare in Syria", but we shouldn't forget that non-chemical bombs have killed far more Syrian civilians in this civil war.

lady liberty says " Give us your poor and unwanted " so why not just let them all just move in , it solves the problem of sorting their own Problems out.

People, we all know that this is going to be a controversial topic.
So please: no snide remarks, no sarcasm, and if you feel the need to write a belittling or insulting post, just don't and get yourself a beer instead.
Yell at the tv if you need to vent. I'm sure it won't mind too much.

Originally Posted by shayne

lady liberty says " Give us your poor and unwanted " so why not just let them all just move in , it solves the problem of sorting their own Problems out.

An all too often forgotten quote. Unfortunately some will raise points with how will we feed them and house them? Will they get jobs without forcing others out of jobs? Surely some that are of not good intentions will make it into our country. Unfortunately those are all questions without good answers. Sure we could feed them and house them with the money that we would save from not going to war with Syria but why then should we not use that money for our already established education and homeless and hungry problems that we have with our own citizens. One thing about politics is there are no facts just opinions.

I personally believe we shouldn't get involved, at least not in a military sense. We have enough to deal with at home. Our nation is still reeling from Iraq and Afghanistan, and some would say we're on the verge of tearing ourselves apart and possibly close to a revolt (I'm not going to debate one side or the other on this, just making this statement based on opinions folks have expressed to me).

If we can't keep our own house in order, what business do we have trying to clean up the one down the block?

Also, I would bring this to attention as well: How many countries do you think still trust us after what the NSA has done to us, as well as the UN and Germany (one ally we've probably lost for sure) and many, many more. I don't know about you, but if I'm going to get in a street fight with a bunch of thugs, I would want someone I knew I could trust backing my play. Right now, our government is not very popular on the international stage, and as such, might have a hard time getting support or even just cooperation from other nations.

Sometimes, you just have to let the world play itself out and pick up the pieces later. I'm certainly not advocating violence against innocent people, it's just that we already have that here. You don't see every Tom, Dick and Harry going all Batman and and stopping it here, so why should GI Joe go and go do it there (and I mean no disrespect to any of our military... just using a general term).

I'll even put it another way... If a doctor becomes sick and doesn't treat himself, which threatens his life, how much value will he be to his patients?

The Pew Research did a study, found here, that lists the world religions by demographic & population.

The demographic study – based on analysis of more than 2,500 censuses, surveys and population registers – finds 2.2 billion Christians (32% of the world’s population), 1.6 billion Muslims (23%), 1 billion Hindus (15%), nearly 500 million Buddhists (7%) and 14 million Jews (0.2%) around the world as of 2010. In addition, more than 400 million people (6%) practice various folk or traditional religions, including African traditional religions, Chinese folk religions, Native American religions and Australian aboriginal religions. An estimated 58 million people – slightly less than 1% of the global population – belong to other religions, including the Baha’i faith, Jainism, Sikhism, Shintoism, Taoism, Tenrikyo, Wicca and Zoroastrianism, to mention just a few.

To assume that all adherents to a specific religion are extremists is a distorted view of reality. Those who hold to that view and advocate the destruction of all members of that religion or ethnicity are proving themselves to be the mirror image of those extremists they hate. IMHO.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

The Pew Research did a study, found here, that lists the world religions by demographic & population.


To assume that all adherents to a specific religion are extremists is a distorted view of reality. Those who hold to that view and advocate the destruction of all members of that religion or ethnicity are proving themselves to be the mirror image of those extremists they hate. IMHO.

Personally all religion is reprehensible to me. Yet I dont recall reading in Christian writing a call to kill or convert unlike Koranic instruction which demands that as well as instructions for cheating non believers in all monetary matters.