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    Judge rejects Ebola quarantine for nurse


    She is free to move about,,,

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    This lady has been in close contact with the below. She still has till Nov. 10 to be considered clear. I would not want to risk infecting my family or friends. You can put about 100,000,000 of these on this period. Pic is from Preston's book.





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    Quarantine and isolation policy needs to be based on sound science and what has been shown to work effectively in practice. Policy should not be a fear based knee-jerk reaction relying on incorrect or outdated concepts for addressing communicable disease transmission. Political posturing in response to public fears only creates more problems and increases population risk rather than protecting the public.

    Public health officials usually have sufficient authority to take necessary action. However, the temporary compromising of civil rights to protect the public health must be reasonably based on the science known and never arbitrary and capricious. The nurse in ME does not present a risk while there are no symptoms of disease and probably will never have ebola. Cooperation for monitoring her health status during the 21 day window is reasonable and ME health officials should expect her cooperation.

    Policy measures imposed should be realistic. We can talk about tough entry policy all we want, but we know how effective government has been in preventing the entry into the US of undocumented persons and illicit drugs. We may be better served by policies that encourage potentially exposed persons to self identify and cooperate with surveillance/monitoring programs. After all, if they start to show symptoms of ebola, their survival depends on getting high level treatment in a medical isolation facility. We do not need fearful potentially exposed persons to be hiding from US and state health authorities.
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    My only concern is whether we really do understand the science, or just think we do for now. Viruses mutate at relatively high rates from my understanding. Having said that, you can only make policy based on current best-knowledge and best-practice.

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    Interesting Charts from the BBC

    This Eye-Opening Chart Shows What Nation Has the Most Ebola Cases Outside West Africa


    Many ways to look at those numbers of course and to analyze them many different ways... or overthink the whole issue
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    My only concern is whether we really do understand the science, or just think we do for now. Viruses mutate at relatively high rates from my understanding. Having said that, you can only make policy based on current best-knowledge and best-practice.

    James.


    I was just recently reading a "New" release from our CDC that says droplet transmission is possible there is a ton of articles including some from the CDC you really have to sift through it

    My understanding of it was that it all really depends on the "Virile load"
    Much of this reminds me of the early days of HIV info slowly coming out, the only difference is it is happening faster because of the internet today then it did back in the 80's

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    I haven't learned one new thing about ebola and the way it spreads since I looked it up this spring when the first reports appeared.

    Every example so far has been exactly according to the known facts - people without symptoms or just starting to exhibit symptoms have not infected anybody, people with severe symptoms are highly contagious. Every infection has happened through close contact with a person in their highly contagious stage when bodily fluids have not only many orders of magnitude higher concentrations of the virus but also come out of the person in huge quantities.

    Unlike HIV/AIDS in the 80s this disease is well known and well studied for decades, not being discovered right now, and it's not that hard for a person to learn about it.
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    +1 Gugi

    There are only seven proteins in Ebola but they are devastating to humans and other primates.l
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    How Ebola Is (and Is Not) Like HIV/AIDS


    Ebola was discovered in 1976
    HIV was discovered in 1983

    The major difference between the two is that HIV can be transmitted without symptoms being present
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    Has anybody heard or read that this Ebola virus is more potent/stronger than the ones in previous outbreaks?

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