Thread: Ebola

Originally Posted by OCDshaver

This absolutely true. And it's a shame that the president had to turn the SG position into a political position and force this opposition. If he were to show respect for the different branches of our govt instead of trying to force the outcome over all else, his appointment would have probably been confirmed long ago. I don't blame republicans or the NRA. I'm as appalled by the pick as they are and support the opposition. Considering his appointment of this czar, I'm not convinced that his SG nominee would have done us much good anyway.

Here's the problem with this comment - the president was elected, and therefore has certain privileges as president - including making appointments. If Romney had won, I would be criticizing the dems for blocking his appointments. Obama won, and the republicans need to get over it.

Originally Posted by hidestoart

U.S. hospitals gird for Ebola panic as flu season looms
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Yes... this is important and will have big financial impact.

The silver lining is that all the basic personal actions like washing hands,
using hand sanitizer, cleaning surfaces, sanitation in the kitchen are all
important for the containment of both flu, ebola and 50 more common problems.

My plan is:
Wash my hands when I come home.
Wash my hands before meals.
Wash my hands before shaving and brushing my teeth.
Wash and keep clean common surfaces in the house.

If there is a local event I might even let my whiskers grow
just to minimize any nick that allows bugs to get under
my skin.

I have recently and will again donate blood because there
are many needs and too many may stay home. My local
blood donation center is small and isolated from the affiliated
hospital.

All these sanitation issues apply if there was no ebola outbreak
especially for shaving with any device.

Many years I pass on the flu shot... but not this year.
I want to eliminate the impact of the flu on my local
health care system.

Originally Posted by hidestoart

Yep you are spot on. This has been my concern since the first talk of it escaping West Africa. I have traveled 36 countries in the world. In 2001 I was on a flight to Porto madrin from Uruguay - Montevideo it was a small plane. There were 12 of us and not two of us from the same country. I got sick after that flight as well as 4 others it was some sort of virus that ruined a week of diving. You are the expert here but it would seem to be a problematic not knowing how to triage even for a small town doctor thus causing it to keep moving.

When this fan hit the stuff big time I started looking at symptoms vs. problems and was
astounded to see 50+ problems that are nearly impossible to separate from Ebola for
the first 48 hours. The big difference was travel and having visited a hot zone. No other
symptom was as specific as travel history.

The big one was influenza and a monster fatality count in the US.
Next was food poisoning of a couple types.
Then there was Norwalk Virus which has wrecked many travel plans.

Norwalk Virus is interesting because cruise ships have been so badly
impacted by this very contagious virus that they have very active virus
containment programs. The one traveler on a cruse ship does not
greatly worry me as things stand now. News is that specific tests
are returning negative -- too many Mai Tai perhaps.

The last five days of an Ebola patients life seems to be the most serious
situation. High viral loads as anything and everything leaks out of the
body and lots of it too.

Wash your hands and stay healthy out there ya all.

Originally Posted by MajorEthanolic

Here's the problem with this comment - the president was elected, and therefore has certain privileges as president - including making appointments. If Romney had won, I would be criticizing the dems for blocking his appointments. Obama won, and the republicans need to get over it.

I couldn't disagree more. The president gets to make the appointment but congress gets to approve.....or not. You see those republicans were elected as well. This is the division of power I was referring to. The nominee is quite controversial. The fact that he's being blocked is not surprising.

Interesting read here on the new Ebola Czar

Sources: Klain in line to succeed Podesta - Mike Allen - POLITICO.com

Originally Posted by OCDshaver

I couldn't disagree more. The president gets to make the appointment but congress gets to approve.....or not. You see those republicans were elected as well. This is the division of power I was referring to. The nominee is quite controversial. The fact that he's being blocked is not surprising.

Not so fast.

If the President wants to appoint someone who is truly not qualified that's all well and good however the Republicans have consistently stalled and refused to approve folks for his cabinet over and over again. This is just part of the overall Republican plan to do whatever they can to help Obama fail.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Not so fast.

If the President wants to appoint someone who is truly not qualified that's all well and good however the Republicans have consistently stalled and refused to approve folks for his cabinet over and over again. This is just part of the overall Republican plan to do whatever they can to help Obama fail.

The pres. doesn't need any help failing he's doing fine on his own.

So, Obama considers himself to be a a very bright guy,A genius,He wants people he can match wits with
I wonder why he did not appoint a medical expert instead of a lawyer?

Originally Posted by OCDshaver

I couldn't disagree more. The president gets to make the appointment but congress gets to approve.....or not. You see those republicans were elected as well. This is the division of power I was referring to. The nominee is quite controversial. The fact that he's being blocked is not surprising.

You're right that everybody is elected... but the presidency comes with perks that the congress does not get. Obama won, so he has the right to staff positions as he sees fit. I can understand blocking for gross incompetence, but the GOP congress is blocking over ideology. Ideology is settled during elections, not during the appointment of judges and other positions.

Just a small aside.
The U.S. has had over a 100 appointed "czars" since the early 1930's. Most appointed without any confirmations from the legislature. Seems just a handy catch all spot for politcal
cronyism, a business card, rarely an actual physical office, and little to no effect on the actual problem the czar was appointed to help. The largest number of czars have been appointed by Bush and Obama at around 30 each I believe.

McCain was quoted as saying "Obama has more czars than the Romanov's".
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