Thread: What is wrong with America

“Religion has convinced people that there's an invisible man ... living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn't want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you. He loves you and he needs money.”
― George Carlin

Originally Posted by Splashone

“Religion has convinced people that there's an invisible man ... living in the sky. Who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn't want you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for you to live forever, and suffer, and suffer, and burn, and scream, until the end of time. But he loves you. He loves you. He loves you and he needs money.”
― George Carlin

I find it funny that people can believe in a God, with zero evidence and only "faith" to dictate, and then deny things like evolution that have hundreds of years of provable, empirical data.

Originally Posted by MajorEthanolic

I find it funny that people can believe in a God, with zero evidence and only "faith" to dictate, and then deny things like evolution that have hundreds of years of provable, empirical data.

Then your going to find it hilarious that there are people like myself, who believe in both.

Originally Posted by Hirlau

Then your going to find it hilarious that there are people like myself, who believe in both.

Of course. Neither faith in religion nor belief in evolution can answer all the questions about human existence. You can say that humans evolved from this thing, and that evolved from something else. But at some point you have answer for a single living cell. The attempts to explain that have been as "out there" as anything religion might shock you with and are just as dependent on blind faith as religion. Those arguments are less important than how disproving the existence of a god would affect society as a whole. And there is always a contingent that will use every new scientific breakthrough as further evidence of the NON-existence of God in stead of thanking God for its discovery. There's room for both to operate freely and bring benefits to mankind. One should not be used to disprove or deny the other.

Originally Posted by Hirlau

Then your going to find it hilarious that there are people like myself, who believe in both.

You got company, I do too. Oddly enough I enjoy George Carlin also as I don't much care for "organized" religions.

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

You got company, I do too. Oddly enough I enjoy George Carlin also as I don't much care for "organized" religions.

Bob

I'm in agreement with you both.

200 years ago if you had told folks that the Universe was made up of atoms held together by an unseen force they would have thought you crazy.

For me, the idea that the Universe was created and has an underlying Creative Force / God / Higher Power, or whatever name we refer to it, as all man has done since the dawn of time, is a no-brainer.

For me personally, I can look at the stars, or at the tree's or at the rocks in a stream, at people, and see the face and presence of this power...my view only.

I'd like all you white collar criminals to stand up and take a bow for ruining countless thousands of lives and being rewarded for it......if you are going to take on the little guy take the big guys down also......and a final word before I start really going crazy on this thread....follow the money.

Originally Posted by WW243

I'd like all you white collar criminals to stand up and take a bow for ruining countless thousands of lives and being rewarded for it......if you are going to take on the little guy take the big guys down also......and a final word before I start really going crazy on this thread....follow the money.

So far this thread has remained relatively peaceful. But as it begins to move towards religion
I would ask the members to be vigilant and respect other's
opinions without "really going crazy on this thread". Thank you, in advance, to all who post here.

Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in: When did it become so difficult to understand the difference between legal and illegal? These arguments about previous immigrations are patently false. Right, we are a Nation of immigrants, even the Native Americans are immigrants but did anyone notice that we are now a country with 2 main languages? Is this because someone went through the immigration process as my Grandmother did when she emigrated from Scotland to the U.S.? No, it is more likely that someone crossed the Rio Grande in their underwear with a floating black garbage bag.
And no, I don't blame anyone for wanting to come to the United States. Ok, now I'll shut up.

Originally Posted by MajorEthanolic

I find it funny that people can believe in a God, with zero evidence and only "faith" to dictate, and then deny things like evolution that have hundreds of years of provable, empirical data.

Originally Posted by Hirlau

Then your going to find it hilarious that there are people like myself, who believe in both.

Just to mess with you guys... the big bang theory comes from the work of a Belgian Jesuit priest. And a French Jesuit priest was also very active in paleontology and is credited with the development of modern evolutionary synthesis.

In most of the rest of the 1st world, there is no such conflict between christian faith and science. In fact, when I was growing up, a catholic school would give you the most hardcore maths/science education... usually thanks to the Jesuit teachers.