Thread: Bill Cosby

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

Is a travisty but nothing will come of it,is all water under the bridge at this point.
As for O.J, is to bad he is in jail,He vowed to hunt down and find the person that Killed his wife,Now nobody is in the hunt anymore.

,,and I hear he was getting close to finding the true killers,,,

Well it appears that a few black accusers have stepped forward. Still the matter reeks of extortion. And like I said, if it was white women he wanted, he easily could have bought whatever he desired with his money.

And people fail to take into proper account that these were not forcible rapes, and that is the thing.

All the victims claimed that he drugged them. But how could this be the M.O. of Cosby unless he was a pedophile drugging children, or a loser high school or college rapist? The method of his alleged raping just doesn't make sense. And every single victim claims that it was never violent or forceful...but DRUG INCAPACITATION!

But a genuine rapist as Cosby is being portrayed doesn't fit the bill. Perhaps a loser college scum, or high school kid....even a evil doctor raping unsuspecting women in offices might do this......but what psychological flaw would Cosby have that would allow him to do this?

Where did he get the drugs? It couldn't simply be Spanish fly....which I think was advertised widely in the nudie magazines of the time. He may have at one time given willing partners nosh fly to spice up things....but advanced rape drugs I would think would have been rare at the time and could not be secured without some kind of supplier, or footprint.

Cosby simply would have had to invest a lot of effort in securing the rape drugs, or manufacturing them himself.

And that is why I doubt all the accusations. You would have to be a SEVERELY FLAWED individual, psychologically, in order drug a woman, when you could easily buy better sex. All of the usual suspects above have a lot in common....the fact that they could not afford to buy sex, and did not have easy access to the sex trade like Cosby would have had.

Simply said, a man with those kind of flaws, especially in the public eye, would exhibit behavior that someone would notice. Cosby was impeccable in his public repore and made a point to push bettering one self.

There is no way that if he was a rapist that he would have given back the way he did. I think, his only flaws would have been extramarital affairs. And that is a good defense for him....because NONE of the women who he did have affairs and consensual sex with came forward and claimed that Cosby encouraged them to take drugs, or claimed he at some point slipped them pills.

At the end of the day it is simple revenge. And you know how I know this.....because the JUDAS comedian began his comic accusation with the words "you can't talk down to me Bill Cosby"

Those very words are what will condemn the accusing comedian, because his accusations do not indicate Righteous Indignation as the true source of his accusation to Bill Cosby.....but rather A PERCEIVED SLIGHT!

Thus reeking of vendetta! And in my opinion eliminating the origin of his act as pure in nature, but PERSONAL! See the little details of accusation must be examined.....thus the LORD does give wisdom.

In the end I believe this is nothing more than the modern day PHILISTINE doing what Philistines have always done to the righteous......afflict them!

But like Samson, (read the Bible), Cosby will have his victory....even as they afflicted the eyes of Samson, so do they Cosby....but he will get them....and when he does it will be a great destruction to them.

Originally Posted by Mach7

There is no way that if he was a rapist that he would have given back the way he did. I think, his only flaws would have been extramarital affairs. And that is a good defense for him....because NONE of the women who he did have affairs and consensual sex with came forward and claimed that Cosby encouraged them to take drugs, or claimed he at some point slipped them pills.

If my memory serves the Biblical punishment for extramarital affair is death by stoning, while for rape it ranges from nothing to a fine, depending on whose property the women was prior to the rape and the circumstances under which it occurred.
That may be even better defense if that's what you're looking for.

I love the guy,but than again, where there is smoke, there is fire.

I think I'll wait until he's had his day in court to cast stones or aspersions at him.cheers.
-CAM-
and que the knee jerking on 3 2 1...
after rereading my post I feel I come across as a harsh poster...that is a failing of mine.good day. -CAM-

Mach7,
i think you have made your viewpoint clear, but i also feel you are walking a dangerous path with the "black accuser" comments etc. I don't know either way whether bill Cosby is guilty and I don't suppose even in the fullness of time anyone will find out the whole truth.

And just to ensure that you know - I have friends from India, Africa, the Phillipines and various other countries.

Originally Posted by edhewitt

I have friends from India, Africa, the Phillipines and various other countries.

Various other countries? Details please! I have not yet decided whether having friends from India, Africa, and the Philippines has any bearing on this

Originally Posted by Mach7

At the end of the day it is simple revenge. And you know how I know this.....because the JUDAS comedian began his comic accusation with the words "you can't talk down to me Bill Cosby"

I want to make sure I understand what you are saying ......... this comedian's 'act' is the cause of, at last count, 20 women accusing BC of drugging and molesting them ? Was it a premeditated conspiracy between the comedian and the accusers ? Did the fact that in the court case BC settled out of court in 2006, for an undisclosed amount kept 12 women, who were willing to come forward, from accusing him then mean anything to you ?

Does the fact that most of these women, if not all, can prove an association of some kind with BC, whether through show business, playboy club parties, his "mentoring" them, cut any ice ? Just a really nice guy who seems to have gotten 20 women angry enough to put their credibility on the line, risk libel suits, and public scrutiny to jump on the get BC bandwagon ?

BTW, Spanish Fly is older than dirt. In the 1970s Quaaludes came out 714s were known as "leg spreaders" in some circles. There are well known 'date rape' drugs that have come along since. Lot's daughters got him drunk and you might say date raped him. There is nothing new under the sun, as Solomon said.

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

Various other countries? Details please! I have not yet decided whether having friends from India, Africa, and the Philippines has any bearing on this

hi lee,
the reason that i listed my friends from other countries is that i did not want to be shouted down as a racist etc for trying to calm down the conversation a bit, in answer to your question (and only including people i have met personally) i have friends from: norway, germany, hungary, ireland, wales, france. and possibly a few a may have forgotten.

i don't really want to get into a huge discussion, i just feel that this thread could get a bit out of hand. sorry if i have got involved in something i should have just stayed out of, i am just struggling to see where the OP can go now, he has made his point, and continues to make it in more and more forceful ways.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

I want to make sure I understand what you are saying ......... this comedian's 'act' is the cause of, at last count, 20 women accusing BC of drugging and molesting them ? Was it a premeditated conspiracy between the comedian and the accusers ? Did the fact that in the court case BC settled out of court in 2006, for an undisclosed amount kept 12 women, who were willing to come forward, from accusing him then mean anything to you ?

Does the fact that most of these women, if not all, can prove an association of some kind with BC, whether through show business, playboy club parties, his "mentoring" them, cut any ice ? Just a really nice guy who seems to have gotten 20 women angry enough to put their credibility on the line, risk libel suits, and public scrutiny to jump on the get BC bandwagon ?

BTW, Spanish Fly is older than dirt. In the 1970s Quaaludes came out 714s were known as "leg spreaders" in some circles. There are well known 'date rape' drugs that have come along since. Lot's daughters got him drunk and you might say date raped him. There is nothing new under the sun, as Solomon said.

I simply pointed out that the accusation that brought all of this back into media prominence was a comedian who said "You cant talk down to me Bill Cosby". Before then nobody was screaming from the rooftops anything. So suddenly the media and all these women come forward at once, as if they were ready to go?

This tells me that he, or whoever ordered the comedy routine...at some point felt disrespected by Bill Cosby. The very words of the comedians act BEWRAY the comedians TRUE MOTIVES!

If a speaker is RIGHTEOUSLY INDIGNANT.....especially when addressing the despicable act of GENUINE RAPE, any verbal and public condemnation will LACK any hint of vendetta or personal slight such as "You cant talk down to me", or "You aint better than me".

Those phrases reek of personal worth and hurt feelings moreso than righteous indignation.

So all wisdom and rationale tells me then that IF THE COMEDY ACT WAS ORCHESTRATED by PERSONAL AGENDA and anything other than RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION.....


....then the ORCHESTRATION could easily extend to the VERY WITNESSES and the whole fiasco overall for the sole purpose of bringing Cosby and the allegations to national attention! Which means it all was PLANNED WELL IN ADVANCE...just as a comedy routine is expertly PLANNED, written, and EXECUTED!

Thus all accusations are TAINTED!

This of course is my personal opinion.....but I think I have presented a side that nobody else considered. Again that being the tone of the comedian...he was definitely not conveying Righteous indignation...but a defense mechanism for a personally offended person.